Fox News's Chris Wallace on Sunday actually asked Republican presidential candidate Michele Bachmann if she's a flake. Possibly feeling the question was a bit over the top, the Weekly Standard's Bill Kristol during the panel discussion segment of “Fox News Sunday” ribbed the host saying, “You can call me a flake if you want” (video follows with transcript and commentary): CHRIS WALLACE, HOST: Finally, let's talk about Michele Bachmann because — and you say — it's interesting. You say that the people saw in the debate and saw you as a serious person. I don't have to tell you that you have — the rap on you here in Washington is that you have a history of questionable statements, some would say gaffes, ranging from — talking about anti-America members of Congress — on this show — a couple of months ago, when you suggested that NATO airstrikes had killed up to 30,000 civilians. Are you a flake? CONGRESSWOMAN MICHELE BACHMANN (R-MINNESOTA): Well, I think that would be insulting, to say something like that, because I'm a serious person. WALLACE: But you understand when I say that, that that's what the rap on you is? BILL KRISTOL, THE WEEKLY STANDARD: I don't know. And I have just personally been radicalized on this in the last couple of months. And maybe you can call me a flake if you want. (LAUGHTER) WALLACE: I simply asked the question. KRISTOL: No, that's OK. WALLACE: It's a perfectly sensible answer. KRISTOL: She gave a good answer. I'll associate myself with her, on this issue at least, as a flake, because I don't really know why the Republicans should negotiate. Yes, she did give a perfectly sensible answer, but was it a perfectly sensible question? Would Wallace ask a male political figure that? Vice President Joe Biden has made his share of gaffes during his career. Would it be acceptable to ask if he's a flake? As NewsBusters has been reporting almost since the moment former Alaska governor Sarah Palin was announced as John McCain's running mate in August 2008, there has been a rash of sexist attacks by the press on conservative women the past three years. As a huge fan of Wallace's, I would never accuse him of acting like his liberal colleagues, but have to wonder what got into his head Sunday to ask such a question? Was he consciously or sub-consciously feeling the need to be extra hard on his guest after last Sunday's showdown with comedian Jon Stewart? Rather shockingly, Bachmann got more of a grilling on Fox Sunday than she did on CBS's “Face the Nation.” Seems a metaphysical certitude she didn't envision that when she woke up this morning. On the other hand, Wallace is by far one of the best interviewers on television, and has a reputation for being as tough on Republicans as he is on Democrats. With this in mind, maybe I'm being hyper-sensitive given all the conservative woman bashing the past three years. Regardless, it will be fascinating to see the media response to this exchange in the coming days. If the usual liberal suspects call Wallace out for this, it will be the height of hypocrisy given their own behavior regarding Bachmann, Palin, et al. If they don't, it might likely be because they recognize how hypocritical it would be, and they're better off letting the matter rest. Either way, it'll be very telling.
Continue reading …Click here to view this media House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) explained Sunday that Republicans had walked away from negotiations on raising the debt ceiling because Democrats had suggested closing special interest tax loopholes for big corporations. “Leader Cantor can’t handle the truth when it comes to these tax subsidies for big oil, for corporations sending jobs overseas or giving tax breaks to the wealthiest people in the country, while they’re asking seniors to pay more for less, as they abolish Medicare,” Pelosi told CNN’s Candy Crowley. “In the Bush years the Republicans said that tax cuts will produce jobs,” she later added. “They didn’t. They produced a deficit.”
Continue reading …Click here to view this media Chris Wallace continued Fox’s defense of his highly edited interview with Jon Stewart last week, but Wallace conveniently forgot to mention them editing out Stewart’s remarks about their managing editor Bill Sammon that John wrote about here . Surprise, surprise. WALLACE: Now the surprising fallout from our interview last Sunday with Jon Stewart. I figured it would get some reaction, but not that it would light up the Internet. One of Jon’s arguments was that the bias of the mainstream media is not to push a liberal agenda. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JON STEWART, “THE DAILY SHOW”: The bias of the mainstream media is towards sensationalism, conflict and laziness. (END VIDEO CLIP) WALLACE: The Huffington Post seemed to prove that Sunday afternoon when it ran this headline that seemed more appropriate to a declaration of war. Then, on Monday, Stewart led his show by complaining about the editing of our interview. True, we did cut our 24-minute conversation down to 14 minutes, but we posted the full interview on our Web site. That’s the only reason you could see it. I was more surprised by Jon’s claim we left out the takeaway moment, the moment where I gave away the game. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) STEWART: Do you believe that Fox News is exactly the ideological equivalent of NBC News? WALLACE: I think we’re the counterweight. STEWART: You believe that? WALLACE: I think that they have a liberal agenda, and I think we tell the other side of the story. (END VIDEO CLIP) WALLACE: But I made exactly the same point in the interview we ran on the air. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) WALLACE: I don’t think our viewers are the least bit disappointed with us. I think our viewers think, finally, they’re get somebody who tells the other side of the story. WALLACE: Jon seemed to think that was a big deal, that I said we tell the other side of the story. While I wish I had said the full story, here is what I meant. As we showed today, we don’t go easy on Republicans. But we try to provide a fuller perspective. For instance, pointing out the strengths and some of the problems with Obamacare before anyone else did. But let me give you a classic example of what fair and balanced means to me. After Hurricane Katrina, the mainstream media piled on FEMA for its failure to respond to the crisis. And the federal government did a lousy job. But it was Fox News that started reporting on the failure of the first responders, the city of New Orleans and the state of Louisiana to help people. Yes, we reported FEMA’s problems, but we also told the other side of the story. And then there was that heated moment of the interview. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) STEWART: Who is the most consistently misinformed media viewers? The most consistently misinformed? Fox. Fox viewers. Consistently, every poll. (END VIDEO CLIP) WALLACE: The Pulitzer Prize-winning Web site Politifact looked into that statement, and on its Truth-o-Meter it rated Jon’s claim false. But the details are even more interesting. In a survey called “Misinformation in the 2010 Election,” people were asked a series of fact questions like, “Which president signed TARP?” But the poll also asked questions like this, “As you know, the American economy had a major downturn starting in the fall of 2008. Do you think that now the American economy is A, starting to recover, or B, still getting worse?” Starting to recover was the so-called right answer. If you said, “still getting worse,” you were officially misinformed. And if you questioned whether climate change is occurring or whether Obamacare will add to deficit, you were also mistaken. Then there was last year’s Pew poll which asked four fact questions like, “What job did Eric Holder have?” It turns out Fox News scored better, not worse, than MSNBC, CNN, the network evening news, and the network morning news. As for individual shows, 31 percent of “Hannity” viewers got all four questions correct. Twenty-nine percent for O’Reilly. And all the way down near the bottom, viewers of Jon Stewart’s “Daily Show” at 22 percent. So, folks, all that talk about you’re the most consistently misinformed viewers, I guess the joke is on Jon Stewart. And that’s it for today. Have a great week, and we’ll see you next “Fox News Sunday.”
Continue reading …Senior Conservative was ‘big rock in my life’, says PM, as details emerge of communications surrounding controversial note Christopher Shale, the close ally of David Cameron’s whose body was discovered in a toilet at Glastonbury on Sunday morning, may have died as early as the previous afternoon, according to a family friend who said he was briefed by medical staff. It emerged that Downing Street had contacted the senior Conservative on Saturday to warn him that a controversial note he had written describing parts of his party as crass and grasping had been leaked to a Sunday newspaper. One official contacted him by text just after 12.30pm to advise him not to speak to reporters; another suggested he get in touch with Conservative headquarters. Shale, chairman of West Oxfordshire Conservative Association and a prominent Eurosceptic, appears to have suffered a massive heart attack as early as lunchtime on Saturday. The prime minister said the death had left him and his wife, Samantha, “devastated”, adding “a big rock in my life has suddenly been rolled away”. Cameron had been aware of the note’s existence and there is deep concern inside Downing Street that its contents, known only to a small number of people, had been disclosed. The paper was essentially a strategy document setting out how to recruit members. It said the local party appeared “graceless, voracious, crass, always on the take” and needed to radically change. Judging by its blunt language, the memo was clearly not written for wide circulation in his local party. Shale’s family is said to have a history of heart failure. Earlier reports, including one from the Glastonbury festival organiser, Michael Eavis, suggesting Shale had killed himself, were dismissed. Avon and Somerset police said that the death was not being treated as suspicious. Party officials had earlier said that there was no suggestion from Shale’s behaviour that he was overly concerned about the leak of parts of his memo to the Mail on Sunday. Shale’s contacts with Downing Street officials were seen as routine and polite, and he is not believed to have taken up the advice to speak to the party headquarters. One senior party source said the heart attack was “just a dreadful coincidence”, adding: “The story in the Mail on Sunday did not concern us that much.” After receiving the texts, Shale did contact the Witney constituency agent Barry Norton, a West Oxfordshsire councillor. Norton said: “He was absolutely in good health, we understand that his death has been as the result of a heart attack, that is the information we have. There is a history of that in his family and anything to the contrary, at the moment, is totally scurrilous.” Asked if Shale was aware of the Mail article which used information he had gathered, he said: “Yes he was. He was very aware of that article. “He was very circumspect with it and was quite confident that this was something that was not really an issue and he was looking forward to increasing our membership and was working on a pilot to try and do that.” It was pointed out that Shale, 56, who worked in public relations, management consultancy and marketing, was a robust character who would not be fazed by the interplay of media and politics. He had been staying in one of the luxury caravans behind the Pyramid Stage. His wife raised the alarm early in the morning, but his body was not found until 9am. But Shale may have died in the early afternoon of the previous day, according to the family friend. Rupert Soames, a businessman and friend of Shale who was at Glastonbury and has been helping co-ordinate arrangements following his death, said through a spokesman that medics had told him and Shale’s family that they believe he died of a massive heart attack “around lunchtime” on Saturday. The prime minister, who has been MP for Witney in Oxfordshire for 10 years, said Shale had been “a huge support over the last decade”. Cameron said: “Christopher was one of the most truly generous people I’ve ever met – he was always giving to others, his time, his help, his enthusiasm and above all his love of life. “It was in that spirit that he made a massive contribution to the Conservative party. Our love and prayers are with Nikki and the family. They’ve lost an amazing dad, west Oxfordshire has lost a big and wonderful man and like so many others, Sam and I have lost a close and valued friend.” In a statement, Michael Eavis said: “I would like to express my deepest sympathy to the family and friends of the man whose body was found on the site early on Sunday morning.” Conservatives David Cameron Glastonbury festival Festivals Patrick Wintour Robert Booth guardian.co.uk
Continue reading …Judge has ordered the paper to hand over the tape, but Sunday Times is considering an appeal against his decision Essex police are taking legal action to seize a tape recording that might implicate the energy secretary, Chris Huhne, for avoiding taking penalty points over a speeding offence. The police have won a court order directing the Sunday Times to hand over an alleged tape recording between Huhne and his former wife, Vicky Pryce. According to an account of the conversation published by the Sunday Times two months ago, Pryce can be heard talking about her fears of a police inquiry if the claims became public. “It’s one of the things that worried me when I took them; when you made me take the points in the first instance,” she says. Huhne is non-committal about the episode, according to the published account, but urges her not to discuss the matter with journalists. The taped conversation then found its way to the Sunday Times. It is understood that after the police mounted an investigation into whether Huhne had asked his wife to take penalty points on her licence, Pryce said she was unable to provide the police with any further evidence to substantiate claims she had made in newspapers. After a private hearing at Chelmsford crown court last week, a judge ordered that the taped evidence be handed to the police. The Sunday Times has said it might appeal on the grounds of keeping sources confidential. Essex police is investigating claims that Huhne avoided a driving ban by persuading Pryce to say she was driving when his car was clocked speeding in 2003. Huhne has denied any wrongdoing. If there is sufficient evidence, either Huhne and Pryce, a respected economist, could both be charged with a criminal offence. Pryce has been involved in complex divorce proceedings, and all sides face the danger of failing to co-operate with a police inquiry. Chris Huhne Sunday Times Newspapers & magazines News International National newspapers Newspapers Patrick Wintour guardian.co.uk
Continue reading …Click here to view this media Republican presidential candidate Michele Bachmann (R-MN) said Sunday that it was “insulting” for a Fox News host to ask if she was a “flake.” “I am very serious about what I want to do,” Bachmann told Fox News’ Chris Wallace. “People recognize that I’m serious.” “You say that people saw in the debate, saw you as a serious person,” Wallace noted. “I don’t have to tell you that you have — that the rap on you in Washington is you have a history of questionable statements, some would say gaffes — talking about anti-America members of Congress, to on this show a couple of months ago when you suggested that NATO airstrikes have killed up to 30,000 civilians. Are you a flake?” “Well, I think that would be insulting to say something like that because I’m a serious person,” Bachmann replied. “What I would say is that I am 55 years old. I’ve been married 33 years. I’m not only a lawyer, I have a post doctorate degree in federal tax law from William and Mary. I worked in serious scholarship and in work in federal tax court. We raised five kids. We’ve raised 23 foster children. We applied ourselves to education reform. We started a charter school for at-risk kids. I’ve also been a state senator and member of the United states Congress for five years. I’ve been very active in our business, as a job creator. I understand job creation. But also I’ve been leading actively the movement in Washington D.C., with those who are affiliated with fiscal reform.” “Do you recognize that now that you are in the spotlight in a way that you weren’t before, you have to be careful and not say what some regard as flaky things?” Wallace asked. “Well, of course, a person has to be careful with statements that they make. I think that is true. I think now that there will be an opportunity to speak fully on the issues. I look forward to that,” Bachmann concluded. “This doesn’t really get at the issue of Bachmann’s zero major legislative accomplishments,” Politico’s Alexander Burns observed , “but it does offer at least a hint of how she’ll parry some of the more obviously skeptical, process-oriented questions about her preparedness for the campaign.” Update: Wallace has caved under the pressure of letters from angry viewers and apologized for suggesting Bachmann was a “flake.” “I messed up. I’m sorry. I didn’t mean any disrespect,” he said. Watch the latest video at video.foxnews.com
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Continue reading …Forget the mud, the toilets and the crowds. Glastonbury first-timer Tim Dowling’s biggest challenge was to get a gig. But who would invite him on stage? Step forward Billy Bragg . . . On the train I tell myself I won’t write about the mud. There’s always mud, I think, and everyone always writes about it. Let’s just say the going is extremely soft, even liquid. The ground sucks at your boots when you walk and, once you’ve crossed a few hundred metres of it, it sucks at your soul a little, too. When people talk about Glastonbury in terms of numbers, the scale of it can be hard to fathom. I can’t really picture 137,000 people, or imagine the throughput of the 3,200 toilets laid on to accommodate them. But there is one statistic that struck me with a certain force: over the three days no fewer than 2,200 acts were scheduled to perform. Whether anyone watched them or not, several thousand people will be able to say they played Glastonbury 2011. And when I turn up early on Saturday morning, I mean to be one of them. I am going to play the banjo at Glastonbury. Finding someone to play with proves more challenging. Despite some cajoling from the Guardian music desk, Noah and the Whale do not wish to be associated with, or photographed anywhere near, a banjo. Instead I manage to book a brief jam session with Fisherman’s Friends , a sea-shanty group from Cornwall, under a giant giraffe. I can’t see why an a cappella group would need banjo accompaniment, but I am not in a position to be choosy. Unfortunately they are, and I’m left standing under the giraffe by myself. Later they reschedule for 6pm. I am obliged to strike out on my own. Although I would like to claim toting a banjo around a huge muddy festival as an additional hardship, I can’t. Everybody’s carrying stuff. Parents are happily hauling pushchairs through the mire. People are walking around the site in wedding dresses. I pass a man wearing butterfly wings, Spock ears, a purple feather fascinator and a high-visibility vest. I decide the Stone Circle – a sort of catch-all spiritual focal point on a rise at the southern edge of the site – might be a good place to kick off my Glastonbury career, but it soon becomes clear that anyone seeking to draw attention to themselves in the circle faces impressive competition. I climb up on one of the stones and play for a bit, but no one comes near. Some festival-goers appear to be attempting to commune with the other stones, either by leaning against them or laying on hands. On the stone directly opposite four people dressed as Teletubbies are having their picture taken. Around the campfire at the centre of the circle all one hears is a series of sharp staccato gusts, as balloons are filled with nitrous oxide and sold to punters by enterprising, red-faced men. It’s sort of peaceful. After about 20 minutes a small child with a painted face clambers up on the stone beside me and listens while I play. “How many Glastonburys have you been to?” I say, trying to make small talk. “Six,” he says. I notice he has something written on his forearm. “It’s my first one,” I say. “What’s that written on your arm?” He grabs hold of his wrist and reads it out carefully. “Please. Return. This. Child. To . . .” I have to go, because I’m appearing with Billy Bragg , who has graciously consented to let me play a song with him in his regular 3pm slot, Bill’s Big Roundup, on the Left Field stage. “The song is called Way Down Yonder in the Minor Key,” he told me when I spoke to him on the phone the previous Thursday. “But don’t listen to the recording, because I don’t play it that way any more. You need to find the version I play live. Your best bet is a YouTube clip from a Canadian children’s programme called Peggy’s Cove , where I’m singing it to a puppet lobster.” “OK,” I said. “It might have been a crab, I don’t know,” he added. It was a lobster. After watching the clip several dozen times, I think I’ve memorised the chords, as well as all the lobster’s lines, but as I approach the backstage area behind the Left Field tent, my hands are shaking. I once drove hours hours through a blizzard to see Billy Bragg play, and the prospect of meeting him would be very exciting were it not alloyed with a sense of impending doom. He pulls his guitar out of his case and talks me through the song’s basic structure. It’s simple enough, but I get a bit lost in the run-through. “The thing is, Tim, I’m a bit like you,” he says. “Not much of a musician.” I pause to admire the way he has welded a charming bit of self-deprecation to an insult so neatly that at first I mistake the whole thing for a compliment. During our brief rehearsal I never once play the song right. I wait backstage while Bragg begins his show, which immediately follows a debate on the future of green employment. Onstage with him are Emmy the Great and singer-songwriter Leon Walker, late of Dartmoor prison, who Billy met though his campaign to provide musical instruments to offenders, Jail Guitar Doors. I am, in every possible sense, out of my depth. After their third song I get introduced, I walk out, I sit down and, well, I’m afraid I don’t remember too much after that. I’m pretty certain I missed the passing A chord in the first chorus (I’ve always assumed that “passing” is in its musical sense more or less synonymous with “optional”) because every time it came around again Bragg turned and gave me a quick, hard stare to make sure I didn’t forget again. Later I also recall something Bragg said to Leon about me just before we went on. “We’re treating him as a musician today, not a journalist,” he said, sounding as if he’d only just decided it. “Bring him in gently, he’s one of us.” I’ll take that – if I never play Glastonbury again, I can be content with the memory of Billy Bragg’s extreme generosity. Which is just as well, because the Fisherman’s Friends cancel our six o’clock. I am left to wander the site. In the Craft Field I see a stall where people are taught how to build ovens out of cob, an ancient, handmade clay-and-straw building material. This strikes me as odd, since the whole festival already seems like a giant machine for churning straw into wet clay with the feet. We’re all making cob, hundreds of acres of it, smooth and oven-ready. In a dystopian urban mockup called Shangri-La, I am suddenly surrounded by nurses in platinum blond wigs, who prod me and look into my eyes. They tell me I have a virus. They recommend tequila. I realise I haven’t seen much music. I slog over to see Pulp at the Park stage, where the mud is so sticky that to stand still is to risk permanent cementation. As the sun sets the woman next to me offers me something brown and homemade from a lemonade bottle. “What is it?” I say. “After Eight vodka,” she says. “Oh, no thank you,” I say. There is a long pause while we listen to Pulp. “So what do you do?” I say. “Just crush up After Eight mints with vodka?” “No, I melt them,” she says. “Actually, I think I’d better have some of that.” This begins a chain of events that I could probably summarise as more drinks. My legs turn to lead. I watch Coldplay’s set on a hospitality bar telly. Glastonbury runs on a 24-hour clock, but I do not. I find myself listening to people who are drinking whisky at 2.30am complain of being defeated by tiredness. I decide it’s time to find my tent while I still can. It sits directly under a guard tower – tower R2 – where a watchman’s walkie talkie brings news from around the festival all night. “We have a very distressed individual wishing to leave the site,” it chirps at 4am. This makes it hard to sleep, but I find it reassuring to know that if I become distressed in the night – a distinct possibility – I need only shout up to him. The next morning the sun has dried the mud into leathery lumps and rolls. At midday I wander off to the Pyramid stage – my first visit – to see the Low Anthem . At this hour it’s easy to get to the front of the stage, where security guards are handing out cups of water. I notice the Low Anthem has a banjo onstage. That’s at least two banjos, out of just 2,200 performers. I think I smell a trend. Glastonbury 2011 Billy Bragg Festivals Tim Dowling guardian.co.uk
Continue reading …Foreign Press Association urges Israel to withdraw threat of 10-year ban against journalists travelling with flotilla The Foreign Press Association has accused the Israeli government of using “threats and intimidation” to stop media coverage of a 10-ship flotilla due to sail to the Gaza Strip this week. The ships are sailing to protest against Israeli restrictions on Gaza and to commemorate last year’s flotilla, which was intercepted by the Israeli navy, who killed nine of the Turkish participants. Israel has restricted the supply of goods and the movement of individuals in Gaza since Hamas took control in 2007. Two of the ships, the Tahrir and the Audacity of Hope, are docked in Athens, where the harbourmaster has banned the latter from leaving port until its seaworthiness is established. Some of the other ships, including the Irish ship Saoirse, have already set sail from European ports. The ships are expected to meet in the Mediterranean before approaching Gaza later this week. The flotilla is expected to carry up to 500 passengers. A Dutch-Italian boat will carry three members of the European parliament and one member of the Israeli parliament. Passengers on the Audacity of Hope include the author Alice Walker and Hedy Epstein, an 87-year-old Holocaust survivor. Passengers have been undergoing training in non-violent resistance techniques and instruction in what to expect if Israeli soldiers board their ship. They have also been provided with T-shirts with the message “Unarmed Civilian”. Israel has been engaged in a diplomatic campaign to prevent the flotilla from setting sail. Hillary Clinton, the US secretary of state, said last week that the flotilla was not “useful” and consular officials tried to persuade US nationals in Athens not to join the flotilla. On Sunday Israel warned journalists, who will make up a minority of the passengers, not to travel with the flotilla. In a letter to editors, Oren Helman, the director of the government press office, wrote that the flotilla had been organised by western and Islamist extremists: “The flotilla intends to knowingly violate the blockade that has been declared legally and is in accordance with all treaties and international law.” He said journalists who participated in the flotilla would be breaking Israeli law and would be banned from Israel for 10 years, as well as facing confiscation of equipment and other measures. The Foreign Press Association, which represents the international media in Israel, said the threat to punish journalists covering the Gaza flotilla raised serious questions about Israel’s commitment to freedom of the press. “Journalists covering a legitimate news event should be allowed to do their jobs without threats and intimidation. We urge the government to reverse its decision immediately,” it said. Gaza flotilla Israel Gaza Palestinian territories Middle East Conal Urquhart guardian.co.uk
Continue reading …Click here to view this media After Van Jones gave his speeches both at Netroots Nation 2011 and with his Rebuild the Dream movement , I was glad to see him get some air time on MSNBC to talk about the political games the Republicans are playing with their hostage taking on raising the debt ceiling. We’d be well served if we had more of their Democratic counterparts speaking this clearly and succinctly as Jones and former adviser to Vice President Joe Biden, Jared Bernstein did here. I really liked Jones’ hand grenade analogy on Medicare. I actually think the Republicans are cynical enough to try to force the Democrats to make cuts to the program and then try to run against them on it in 2012 and hope that the public is uninformed enough along with a complicit media that would help with that factor for them to get away with it. As Jones noted, they need to get out there and defend the program if they don’t want that hand grenade to blow up in their face. I don’t know about anyone else, but as someone who has been following this issue, I’m sick to death of the Republicans throwing temper tantrums and telling the public that they’d be willing to let the world’s economy crash if they don’t get their way on tax cuts whether it be Cantor or McConnell of any of the rest of them. It’s long past time for the majority of our media to start calling out these hostage takers if they would like to still have a country worth living in, and not one in the middle of another depression, which there’s some argument about whether we’re already there now. For far too many Americans sadly, we may as well be. O’DONNELL: In the House, they walked out of the budget negotiations. Cantor, simply because they were talking about tax expenditures. No one, the Democrats, the Vice President, no one was talking about raising income tax rates of any kind, just going after the expenditures. BERNSTEIN: That is a key point, that is a key, I wrote about that on my blog today. It’s a key point. No one was, the thing that you hear Republicans inveigh against the most and the conservative supply side theory economist, the thing they inveigh against the most is an increase in tax rates, but if you broaden the base and close loopholes, you’re not increasing rates. And so that’s the way, that’s the direction that this panel needs to head now I think. O’DONNELL: Van, Sen. Chuck Schumer said today that they were looking at possibilities in Medicare, the what they call the delivery system in Medicare. There might be some ways to shave things there. Not cuts that would in any way affect beneficiaries. This is the kind of cuts that Democrats have done many times before. President Clinton did $200 billion in that his first six months in office, he did a big Medicare cut, but it was all on the provider side of the equation. If the Democrats go into Medicare in that way, will that undercut any of the argument they’ve been making against Paul Ryan? JONES: You know, we’re going to have to get all the way through this process, because I will say this. Somebody throws you a hand grenade, you can try to fiddle with it, or you can throw it back. And part of the problem is, that we get so earnest trying to figure out, well maybe we can do this, maybe we can do that, and we are holding the hand grenade they want us to hold. Here’s the bottom line, Medicare, the main threat to Medicare, is coming from the Republican Party, that’s the main threat. And Democrats need to stand up and defend the basic principles of this program, which is a sound program. When we begin to accept the terms of debate of the other side and start to fool around and fiddle with the hand grenade, we always wind up with the explosion in our face. O’DONNELL: Jared Bernstein, have the Democrats accepted, as Van says, too many of the terms of the debate set by the other side? BERNSTEIN: Look, the Democrats have held fast on this issue of revenues. Someone who makes an argument that the Democrats have been spineless and self-negotiating and folded too soon, I don’t think they can make that case here. Because I think the Democrats, President Obama, Vice President Biden, everyday I read in the paper that they’re holding fast on the revenue piece of this. And that’s critical. And when they sat down at the table, they didn’t have a fifty fifty spending cut revenue plan. They actually had three dollars in spending cuts to one dollar of revenue. So they’ve been bargaining in good faith from the very beginning. JONES: That’s what we think. O’DONNELL: What do you do when Republicans say, alright, we’ve talked about what we want to talk about, spending cuts. We may have reached a few tentative areas of agreement, just not specific agreements, but now, if you want to talk about revenues, you want to talk about anything involving the tax code, we’re leaving. How do you have the next conversation with them? JONES: Well, I tell you what. I think that the American people, ordinary folks, I’ve been out in the country, we just launched this new campaign called RebuildTheDream.com. The whole point of it is, most Americans get it. They know we’re going to have to have a more balanced approach. The polls show it that we can’t just have this lopsided cut, cut, cut. You know, frankly, the private sector already imposed an austerity program on us, that was Wall Street, the crash, it’s called the great recession. We don’t need a public austerity program imposed upon us on top of the private sector austerity program. What we need to do is to make sure that we have a balanced approach going forward. And I think that the pain that ordinary people are going through already in the country, these veterans who are coming home to no jobs, no hope and nothing, these kids who are graduating this spring into the worst job market in two generations, homeowners who are underwater desperately, and these banks that we rescued won’t even let them renegotiate the principals or the rates, that level of pain, needs to be heard from in Washington D.C. and instead what we hear is, we’re going to destroy Medicare and if you to raise one penny more of revenue from the richest people in America, we’re going to walk out on you. And you and I both know, we can deal with the deficit, just by within ten years, just by going back to Bill Clinton’s good, smart tax policies and military expenditure levels and we’d be done. So my concern is this point. If we have these kind of shenanigans going on in Washington D.C. and the American people are hurting, that at some point we’re going to have to stand up and bring some good wisdom and get this back to Washington D.C. O’DONNELL: Jared a quick last word. BERNSTEIN: I couldn’t agree more. I mean, it’s the wisdom of the American people that ultimately have to solve this deal. You know the Paul Ryan budget takes $3 trillion from low income programs and gives a trillion dollars to the richest people who are already the only ones who are actually doing okay right now. I can’t imagine why that’s okay with people when they know what it’s really about. Those twenty plus million on and underemployed people, I guarantee you there’s a number of tea parties in that group too. It’s time for the politicians to hear from the American people that this behavior is wholly unacceptable. Sit down at the table. Get the deal done. Get past the debt ceiling and get back to work.
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