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To President Obama: Raise the Debt Ceiling Use 14th Amendment!! Clyburn Larson Call For 14th Amendment Option Illegal Immigration/14th amendment/Dundalk Merritt Park Shopping center CATrusler says: Tell Obama to invoke the 14th Amendment and end the #debtceiling crisis: http://t.co/lwCvLb1

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AP’s Abrams, Quoting No One, Claims That ‘Some Legal Scholars’ Believe Obama Can Bust Debt Ceiling With 14th Amendment

Gosh, isn't it convenient that Associated Press reporter Jim Abrams, in a Wednesday evening dispatch (“Democrats say Obama should invoke 14th Amendment”), was able to find “some legal scholars” who believe that President Obama can invoke Section 4 of the 14th Amendment to the Constitution to ignore the nation's current debt ceiling and have the government go out and borrow more money, but “somehow” didn't name any? Not only that, he didn't even tell readers why 14th Amendment power creationists might be wrong, let alone find “some other” dissenting legal scholar to explain why. Instead, he instead went to White House spokesman Jay Carney. I suspect that Abrams' “oversight” occurred because the only “legal scholars” he could have cited would have been uncomfortable Democrats in Congress who don't want to be on record voting against any and every effort to control spending which might be attached to whatever bill or bills House Republicans might attempt to pass — a matter of fierce internal GOP debate as of late Thursday evening. Even Harvard Professor Lawrence Tribe, that lefty of all lefties, in a New York Times op-ed earlier this month (“A Ceiling We Can’t Wish Away,” with “We Cannot Pretend the Debt Ceiling Is Unconstitutional” as its browser window title), couldn't abide this ridiculous argument. He also included a now-ironic (and bolded by me) assertion about the Constitution by President Obama himself in his second-last paragraph: Several law professors and senators, and even Treasury Secretary Timothy F. Geithner, have suggested that section 4 of the 14th Amendment, known as the public debt clause, might provide a silver bullet. This provision states that “the validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law … shall not be questioned.” They argue that the public debt clause is sufficient to nullify the ceiling — or can be used to permit the president to borrow money without regard to the ceiling. Both approaches provide the false hope of a legal answer that obviates the need for a real solution. The Supreme Court has addressed the public debt clause only once, in 1935, in the case of Perry v. United States. The court observed only that the clause confirmed the “fundamental principle” that Congress may not “alter or destroy” debts already incurred. Some have argued that this principle prohibits any government action that “jeopardizes” the validity of the public debt. By increasing the risk of default, they contend, any debt ceiling automatically violates the public debt clause. This argument goes too far. It would mean that any budget deficit, tax cut or spending increase could be attacked on constitutional grounds, because each of those actions slightly increases the probability of default. Moreover, the argument is self-defeating. If it were correct, the absence of a debt ceiling could likewise be attacked as unconstitutional — after all, the greater the nation’s debt, the greater the difficulty of repaying it, and the higher the probability of default. … The Constitution grants only Congress — not the president — the power “to borrow money on the credit of the United States.” Nothing in the 14th Amendment or in any other constitutional provision suggests that the president may usurp legislative power to prevent a violation of the Constitution. … Once the debt ceiling is breached, a legal cloud would hang over any newly issued bonds, because of the risk that the government might refuse to honor those debts as legitimate. … A core function of the Constitution is to “force us into a conversation” about our future, Mr. Obama once wrote. Tribe's Obama cite is intensely ironic, given that the President has yet to effectively join the conversation by presenting a detailed plan of his own. In fact, in his speech Monday night, None of this stopped the AP's Abrams from spending 400 or so words on the 14th Amendment option, including a final paragraph containing a reference to “some legal scholars”: House Democrats said Wednesday that President Barack Obama should invoke a little-known constitutional provision to prevent the nation from going into default if Congress fails to come up with a plan to raise the debt ceiling. Rep. James Clyburn of South Carolina, a member of the Democratic leadership, said he told fellow Democrats that Obama should both veto any House GOP plan for a short-term extension of the debt ceiling and invoke the 14th amendment, which says that the validity of the nation's public debt “shall not be questioned.” The White House has rejected resorting to this tactic to keep the nation from defaulting, questioning its legality, but Rep. John Larson of Connecticut, who chairs the Democratic caucus, said “we're getting down to decision time” and “we have to have a failsafe mechanism and we believe that failsafe mechanism is the 14th Amendment and the president of the United States.” Larson said Clyburn's proposal on the 14th Amendment was met with applause by other Democrats at their meeting. The post-Civil War 14th Amendment guaranteeing citizenship to all people born or naturalized in the United States contains a provision that “the validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned.” Some legal scholars have said the president can invoke that clause to keep the nation from defaulting on the debt, although there is no legal precedent for such an action. The problem, as Matt Vadum explained in the American Spectator on July 5, is that Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution says that “The Congress shall have Power … To borrow Money on the credit of the United States.” If Congress doesn't authorize it, it can't legally be done. That's about as airtight as an argument can get. Also, as Tribe noted, the bond marketers and investors would have a hard time justifying taking an obvious legal risk by buying Uncle Sam's bonds in such a situation. (Snarky aside: But Ben Bernanke and his magical electronic printing machines probably wouldn't.) As to the AP's Abrams, you're going to have to name names before I believe you actually spoke with someone about the constitutionality of the 14th Amendment debt-ceiling gambit. Until you do, I'm going to interpret “some legal scholars have said” to mean “I personally think it would be a cool idea, as do my Democratic buds in Congress.” Cross-posted at BizzyBlog.com .

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Obama Sidelined?

It’s no surprise that Republicans, led by House Speaker John Boehner, went out of their way to insult the president, but remarkably Democrats also went forward over the weekend with Capitol Hill debt talks that did not even include a symbolic emissary from the White House. After a perfunctory meeting with Barack Obama on Saturday — a session he had hurriedly called to maintain at least the appearance of leverage — Democrats and Republicans returned to their caves on the other end of Pennsylvania Avenue for the real talks, without anyone from the White House included. This served to reinforce Boehner’s vow to exclude Obama from the discussions. The internal logic of Washington’s byzantine protocol indicates a bipartisan snub of the president. While the GOP obviously would savor a solution to the debt-ceiling crisis that gives Obama no credit, why are Democratic leaders so willing to cut him out? The answer might be found in growing concerns among veteran Capitol Hill Democrats that their president is a lousy negotiator. Although they see him as a talented public communicator, his short time as a senator and painfully slow learning curve as president leads congressional Democrats to think it best to take over and provide cover for him once the deal is done. Also by Craig: The GOP’s Political Deficit

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Reporter Attacked Covered Extreme Hoarding Story

A reporter for the Fox affiliate TV station in Philadelphia was attacked on-air by the son of a man who owns a home where animal welfare workers removed two dozen animals, many of them dead. (July 27)

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Carney: Time Is Running Out

White House press secretary Jay Carney says that time is running out to strike a deal to prevent the first government default in the nation’s history. He urged Congress to do what they were elected to do, come together to get a deal done. (July 27)

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NBC’s ‘Today’ Touts ‘Big Setback’ for Boehner Plan, Lauer Lobs Softballs to Dick Durbin

At the top of Wednesday's NBC Today, as co-host Ann Curry declared that “Americans are just fed up with the stalemate” over the debt ceiling, fellow co-host Matt Lauer announced: “The latest setback came last night when House Speaker Boehner was told by the Congressional Budget Office that his proposal would cut spending far less than advertised.” In the report that followed, correspondent Kelly O'Donnell noted: “Speaker Boehner's team is going back to work to find more cuts, just as the public is so increasingly frustrated.” O'Donnell went on to reiterate “a big setback” for the plan as “The Congressional Budget Office did the math and found the Boehner plan came up short on spending cuts.” O'Donnell continued to pile on criticism of the plan: “More trouble came from an agency that rates the country's credit. Appearing on CNBC Tuesday night, Standard & Poor's was critical of the Boehner plan's two stages for raising the debt limit.” She portrayed Democrats as pushing for a deal: “The White House urged Congress to take the deadline seriously….Senate Democrats have their own plan in the wings, predicting Boehner's will fail.” O'Donnell ignored the fact that the Reid plan had little chance of passing either. Following O'Donnell's one-sided report, Lauer interviewed Senator Dick Durbin, allowing the Illinois Democrat to thoroughly bash the Boehner plan unchallenged. Lauer began with this softball: “You've seen all the plans, you've seen the counter proposals. Is there anything on paper, on the table, or on the horizon right now, Senator, that you think stands a chance of being passed in time?” Durbin took his first shot at the Speaker: “By yesterday, his plan had been rejected by the ratings agencies and even by his own caucus….We've got to understand that we can show a lot of bravery and bluff when we're playing with other people's chips.” Lauer wondered if changes could be made to the Boehner proposal to make it more likely to pass, Durbin continued to attack: “I can tell you that what we're facing here is a Republican caucus that is basically showing its political bravery by giving up Medicare benefits for elderly people, by increasing the cost of student loans for working families, by cutting money for medical research.” The most critical question from Lauer was when he speculated President Obama's threat to veto the Boehner plan may just be “political posturing.” Durbin quickly turned the question around and focused on the GOP: “Speaker Boehner has to realize that this is more than the cheers of his caucus that he's looking for. We've got to lead a nation and put some of these party considerations aside.” Lauer followed up by noting public anger: “…the American people are fed up. After dueling speeches on Monday night where the President pointed a finger of blame at the Republicans and the Speaker of the House pointed a finger of blame at the President.” But rather that holding Durbin and fellow Democrats to account for that anger, Lauer simply asked: “What are you personally hearing in your office from your constituents on this matter?” Again, Durbing used the opportunity to hit Boehner: “…what I'm appealing to Speaker Boehner to do is to set aside some of the partisan differences. Both sides have to come together, both sides have to be willing to give. But this idea of my way or the highway, the old cliche, it just doesn't work when we've got the American economy at stake.” Wrapping up the segment, Lauer gave Durbin an opportunity to appear above the fray, observing: “Don't the American people deserve better than this?” Durbin replied: “Absolutely, Matt. They look at Congress and they say, 'This is so dysfunctional, if you can't get it together and reach an agreement like grown-ups, for goodness sakes, we may need another team on the field.'”

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July 27, 1963 – Talking Taxes In 1963

( The Kennedy Tax Cut Proposal – Sweeping Changes – not everybody was happy ) Click here to view this media Note: This is a repost from last year on this day. Seems the story just doesn’t change. In what became the most sweeping set of changes to Tax Cut legislation, House Bill HR-8368 passed by a vote of 271-175. It represented a radical change in the economic structure of the country by basing its operations on the theory of deficit financing . President Kennedy: “No more important legislation will come before the Congress this year than the bill before the House to reduce Federal Taxes. In fact, no more important domestic economic legislation has come before the Congress in some fifteen years.” A little too radical for some. Most Republicans voted against it as did the bloc of Dixiecrats who warned it would mean fiscal ruin for the U.S. It didn’t and the bill passed the Senate in February 1964 created the largest tax cut in history and it’s still argued about today , as no doubt this post will provoke. History is very often the gift that keeps on giving.

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This is Your Brain After Listening to Too Many Right Wing Talking Points on the Debt Ceiling

Click here to view this media I try to monitor C-SPAN’s morning call-in show Washington Journal when I get a chance just to see what viewers of that network and the public are saying about the topics of the day and this one jumped out at me this morning as being from someone who’s been watching too much Fox News or for that matter possibly a lot of the rest of our corporate media with the right wing talking points this woman rattled off when weighing in on this debt ceiling kabuki theater. How someone comes off thinking that President Obama sounds like a partisan when he has, to the dismay of liberals, bent over backwards to make concessions to Republicans, or says he’s playing the “class warfare card” is beyond me, but obviously this person has no idea what “class warfare” even means, or that they’re probably losing that war. She also was informed enough to realize that there was a deficit commission put together that went nowhere and in her defense, the one thing she said here that I agreed with completely is that doing that again may very well be a colossal waste of time, but then she lost me with saying she really didn’t understand this whole concept of the debt ceiling at all, and even though she admitted she was clueless on what they’re debating about, claimed the whole thing is just some scare tactic by both sides. It goes without saying that since she does not understand what the debt ceiling is and thought it was about future spending, she obviously has no clue that this is about approving raising the debt ceiling for spending that the Congress has already approved, and not what they might spend in the future. It also seems pretty obvious she did not listen to the president’s speech at all this week or she would already know that. It pains me to hear just how misinformed our citizens are in the United States and this is just one example coming from someone who actually knows just enough to know that a deficit commission existed but not a whole lot else on the specifics of what’s going on in this debate. This is your brain on Fox or after hearing too much right wing propaganda from somewhere else. There is class warfare going on. Unfortunately too many people don’t even understand what that means or who is waging it. Rough transcript below the fold. BRAWNER: Martha, a Republican in Kalamazoo, Michigan. MARTHA: Hi, I watched the debate last night and I was kind of hoping to hear something from Obama that would encourage the discussion. Instead it felt like it was very partisan. And I felt that he really played the class warfare card. I was expecting something a little more presidential that would help the debate. Instead, I left feeling very… I don’t know, upset with the country, for both Republicans and Democrats because I felt Obama really lacked the leadership. BRAWNER: So, Martha, on this issue of the two proposals put up by House Speaker John Boehner and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, one thing they have in common is this idea of a super committee, that they would put together a bipartisan panel of lawmakers to recommend further cuts than the House and the Senate would have to vote up or down on. What do you make of that and to your point about leadership, do you think that that’s something that the two sides, the two parties should get behind? MARTHA: Well, I thought there was a similar committee that was meeting a year ago that came up with the way to reduce the deficit. Am I incorrect on that? BRAWNER: Yeah, the bipartisan deficit commission that the president put together. MARTHA: But nothing really came of that. I don’t understand why that did not go forward and why that doesn’t work. Yeah, I agree. I mean, we have to go back to a time when people would just talk and communicate and compromise. I totally agree with the Republicans that we cannot continue to spend. I don’t understand the whole debt limit thing. It seems like there’s a lot of scare tactics going on here, probably on both sides. But I don’t understand this scare tactic game that everyone is falling for. But what bothers me most is seeing the class warfare and seeing one group of citizens against another and playing one as the bad guy and one as the good guy. There are no bad guys or good guys. Everybody cares about the United States. Why can’t they just come to some way of working together? Karoli adds : After I read this post I started looking through my DVR recordings for some of the talking points Heather mentioned. This was today’s meme o’ the day from Fox & Friends. Point 1: President Obama’s speech was all partisan. Point 2: It was a campaign speech, not a leadership speech. Point 3: He used the term “balanced approach” SEVEN times. SEVEN. Can you remember the number SEVEN, kids? If you can remember that he said that SEVEN times, you might forget everything else he said. Or what it is he said seven times. These people probably employ CIA brainwashing operatives to write their copy. Heavy sigh. Click here to view this media

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11-0: Still No Liberals in the Debt Ceiling Debate at the New York Times

Wednesday’s New York Times lead story on the debt ceiling standoff by Jennifer Steinhauer and Carl Hulse,

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Big Lebowski House

The Dude Abides First party @ the Jackson house Connect_PR says: Seen The Big Lebowski? Great film. Now buy the house http://t.co/61YulNQ via @Telegraph

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