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Talking Points Memo reports that Nancy Pelosi is drawing a line in the sand on what cuts the upcoming debt ceiling commission can make: At a pre-recess press conference Tuesday afternoon, TPM asked House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) whether the people she appoints to the committee will make the same stand she made during the debt limit fight — that entitlement benefits — as opposed to provider payments, waste and other Medicare spending — should be off limits. In short, yes. “That is a priority for us,” Pelosi said. “But let me say it is more than a priority – it is a value… it’s an ethic for the American people. It is one that all of the members of our caucus share. So that I know that whoever’s at that table will be someone who will fight to protect those benefits.” The question now becomes, “Will Harry Reid follow suit”? If he does then Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid will be protected. If even one of his selections, as TPM author Brian Beutler points out, doesn’t hold firm to the same standard as Pelosi, then cuts are almost certain to come.

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On this depressing day when the crazies, willing to destroy what’s left of the economic engine that is barely sputtering down the road got their ransom paid, everyone has to pick themselves up and decide what to do next. The President, having once again (in his memorable words) given in to the hostage takers, has to decide how to rebuild his political coalition that is in tatters, and how to show some strength after looking weak. Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi have momentous decisions to make: Are they going to appoint strong negotiators who won’t back down on Democratic Party principles, or will they give away a crucial seat on the super-duper commission who will once again give in to Republican demands? And progressives have to decide as well: do we give up, move away, get out of politics — or do we get out of this depression we’re feeling and come up with a winning political strategy? As to the President, what is important to understand is that he wanted this negotiation. He had opportunities to avoid it last year, getting this deal done as part of the lame duck budget deal, or at the beginning of this year by making clear that he would only sign a clean debt ceiling increase. But he waded into these negotiations willingly and eagerly, hoping that reason and Wall Street lobbyists would help him craft the grand compromise he was willing to make if the Republicans agreed to raise taxes. It was part of his long-term strategy for getting the deficit issue off his back — Ezra Klein’s piece here (which I have been assured by people at the White House that it very much reflected Obama’s thinking) lays out the thinking: cut a big dramatic budget deal, get the deficit issue off his back, look like a centrist going into the next election. And through most of this showdown, he did look far more reasonable than the Republicans and was doing better than them in the short-term polling. The problem is that if Republicans don’t ever compromise, if they don’t care about being reasonable or not blowing up the economy, the President is the one who would have to fold, and that is exactly what happened. It made him look weak, and it tore a gaping hole in his relationship with his base. D.C. centrists loved his reasonableness, his willingness to reach out, and all those other things praised in the editorial pages of the Washington Post, but even the pundits who were praising him — in fact, especially the pundits that were praising him — turned on him when he lost. Such is the nature of this town. What he needs to do now is to show strength and reconnect with his disillusioned and depressed base. He needs to pick some fights with the Republicans who just beat him, and show he’s not willing to back down. He needs to take on the bankers (who once again came out of this entire showdown completely unscathed, fancy that) and aggressively move to revive the housing market. Most importantly, he needs to introduce a bold new jobs initiative with two tracks. The first track should be a legislative package in Congress. The Republicans will never agree to it, which will show people how little they care about actually creating jobs. The second track should be the initiatives that the administration can do itself to create jobs, things they don’t need Congress to help them on. There are at least five all-important things the administration could do right now that would make a big difference in creating jobs: aggressively move on China currency manipulation; force Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to write down underwater home mortgages; force the banks to write down underwater mortgages (which can be done through the administration’s regulatory powers and by pressing them on their servicers’ legal violations); step up enforcement of the “Buy American” provisions already in existing laws; and use the remaining TARP money authorized as a public bank to make investments in businesses that want to expand their workforce. All of these things would put more money into middle-class Americans’ pocketbooks, and would create real jobs right away. These five policies, by the way, all have the added benefit of taking on the big banks on Wall Street, which will do more to show strength and rally his base than anything else Obama could do. Even more importantly, all of these initiatives would actually produce good jobs and help stabilize the American middle class, which is being crushed to death by the economy. As for Reid and Pelosi, they now have much of the future of their party resting in their hands. If even one Democrat is appointed who is a weak negotiator and/or is not a progressive, we could see another absurdly one-sided deal that will be like a worse horror movie sequel to this one (and the one before where Obama gave the Republicans tax cuts for the rich) — Capitulation 3: The Ax Cutting Continues . Given that option vs. the cuts that will come automatically because of the way the deal is written, the automatic cuts would be better because at least they involve a lot of military cuts and they hold at least some progressive priorities harmless. But progressives don’t control either chamber, and the pressure to pass the bill — from the punditry, and from defense contractor and health provider lobbyists — will be enormous, and we would almost certainly lose that fight, leaving us with one more terrible deal that would make Democrats look weak, and would dishearten and divide us even more going into the election year. I worry less about Pelosi appointing anyone who would sell us out — her own values and her political smarts are too strong, and the political dynamics in the House give her the freedom to appoint good people. But the culture and clubbiness and tradition of the Senate create a lot of pressure on Reid to appoint people who could be very bad. Sen. Conrad, the Budget Committee chairman, who protocol and tradition say should be appointed, is an extremely conservative Senator who has been happy to cut terrible deals with Republicans in the past, and who doesn’t have to worry about grassroots anger back home because he is retiring. Remember, even one vote from the Democrats is all it would take, and the bill cannot be filibustered once it comes out of the Super Commission. Progressives should be spending a massive amount of time and effort working on Reid to not give a seat to a Senator whose history shows they will sign off on a bad deal, especially someone like Conrad who is very conservative and accountable to no one since he isn’t coming back. What should progressives do now? My friend Bob Creamer today in the Huffington Post argues that we need to focus issue-wise on two major things: building a firewall of support on Social Security/Medicare/Medicaid so that politicians will fear going after them, and creating a major new campaign on the jobs issue. I agree with him on both priorities, but would add a third: the Super Commission is mandated to be talking about tax reform as well. The phrase “tax reform” is, as another friend Mark Schmitt says, music to a progressive’s ears, but the details matter enormously. The Simpson-Bowles Commission and the Gang of Six both targeted middle-class tax breaks like the home mortgage deduction and health care benefits with the idea of using much of the money to cut tax rates for high-income individuals and big business. That is precisely the opposite direction we need to be going: tax reform should benefit the hard-pressed working and middle class, not the wealthy and multinational corporations. Progressives need to get engaged in this debate very aggressively. As to elections, progressives need to fully commit to trying to keep these extremists Republicans from controlling everything in 2013, because if that happens, everything they are pushing for — the destruction of Medicare and Medicaid, huge cuts in Social Security, more massive cutbacks in everything that matters to the middle class and poor — will come to pass. My own priority will be retaking the House, where Republicans have created a track record of stunningly crazy extremism, and where a large number of tea partiers who swept in last year will be deeply vulnerable. Beyond elections, though, progressives need to be very clear about something: as aligned as we need to be with Democrats on elections in order to keep the Republican wolf from the door, we need to be very clear that our alliance with Democrats electorally will not save the values and programs we care most about when it is time for the deals to be done. We have to rely on our own independence, our own organizing, our own imagination, our own demonstrating, our own online communicating to fight for what we hold most dear. We have to hold Democrats just as accountable as Republicans in order to save the middle class and poor from being traded away when push comes to shove. The fight goes on, and we can’t give way for anyone.

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Obama signs debt bill after final Senate vote

WASHINGTON — The Senate emphatically passed emergency legislation Tuesday to avoid a first-ever government default, rushing the legislation to President Barack Obama for his signature just hours before the deadline. The vote was 74-26. Obama signed the bill little more than an hour later. Tuesday’s vote capped an extraordinarily difficult Washington battle pitting tea party Republican forces in the House against Obama and Democrats controlling the Senate. The resulting compromise paired an essential increase in the government’s borrowing cap with promises of more than $2 trillion of budget cuts over the next decade. “It’s an important first step to ensuring that…

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US Futures Gapping Up Huge House Passes Debt Deal Sen. John McCain says debt-ceiling deal will pass the Senate Debt Ceiling Deal discussion wpro says: LATEST NEWS | RI Congressmen say they only voted for debt ceiling deal because it was the “best option” available… http://fb.me/12F1LnbIk

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US debt crisis continues as turmoil infects Italy and Spain

Markets spooked as bond yields in both founder members of single currency hit monetary union records Financial markets in Europe and North America were gripped by a new sense of crisis as the turmoil caused by the narrowly averted US debt default moved back across the Atlantic and infected Italy and Spain – two key members of the eurozone. Bond yields in both the founder members of the single currency hit monetary union records, forcing Spain’s prime minister, José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero, to abandon his holiday plans. Italy responded to a fresh wave of losses in its banking sector by announcing a crisis meeting of economic policymakers. Interest rates on Spanish and Italian bonds rose to well above 6%, the level that signalled the beginning of the bailout process for Greece, Ireland and Portugal. Meanwhile, interest rates on assets seen as safer fell sharply, with the yield on UK 10-year gilts dropping to an all-time low of 2.77%. Gold rose to a new record level for a ninth day in a row on Tuesday. Wall Street’s Dow Jones index had lost 266 points by the close in New York – its eighth successive fall and longest losing streak since the global banking system was on the brink of collapse in October 2008. US shares have given up virtually all their 2011 gains, while stocks in Europe and Asia are already trading below the levels at which they ended 2010. “There is a growing sense of crisis enveloping markets in the northern hemisphere,” said Nick Parsons, the global head of strategy at National Australia Bank. Amid fears that Italy and Spain will require a financial bailout to bring down their borrowing costs, Bob Diamond, the chief executive of Barclays, said Europe’s sovereign debt crisis, and woes in the US, justified the UK’s new reputation as a “safe haven” amid the turmoil. Diamond warned that the single currency’s problems were not going to disappear – which he dubbed “chronic event risk”, and said it was important to support David Cameron and George Osborne’s efforts to put Britain’s public finances back on track. “If they don’t address public spending they put at risk the [UK's] triple A rating. If the US gets downgraded, it is an issue for the US but it is still a relatively minor market event. But if the UK gets downgraded, it would have bigger implications for the economy,” said Diamond. “I do support what the prime minister and the chancellor here are doing.” Diamond’s intervention came as the US Senate voted for the deficit reduction plan agreed by Democrats and Republicans in Washington and as Fitch, one of the world’s three big rating agencies, gave the US a breathing space by saying it would not immediately strip the world’s biggest economy of its prized top-notch credit ranking. Fitch stressed, however, that the respite could be shortlived. While pointing out that the risk of default was “extremely low”, the rating agency said that without significant changes in fiscal policy, the US debt to gross domestic product ratio “will reach 100% by the end of 2012, and will continue to rise over the medium term – a profile that is not consistent with the United States retaining its triple A sovereign rating”. BNP Paribas bank was on Tuesday forced to take a €534m hit against its exposure to Greek government debt. The bank insisted it would be a one-off occurrence despite a large exposure to Italy, in the latest sign that banks across Europe are beginning to take hits against the country. HSBC set aside £65m on Monday. Confirmation of the US debt deal prompted a fresh political row in the UK, with the government insisting the spending restraint agreed to by Barack Obama was tougher than that announced by George Osborne. Conservative MPs said the US deal vindicated the coalition’s approach and represented a setback to the shadow chancellor, Ed Balls, who has been urging the UK government to adopt the more cautious approach to deficit reduction hitherto favoured by the US. Labour sources disputed that America’s programme of cuts was now more draconian than Britain’s and said the Republicans appeared to have forced Obama into “a plan that some believe risks going faster than is economically wise, just at the time when worries are growing about the fragility of the US recovery”. Market turmoil Economics Spain Italy United States Global economy Stock markets Euro Currencies Euro European Union Europe Economic policy Larry Elliott Jill Treanor guardian.co.uk

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Barack Obama hints at tax rises after US debt bill goes through Senate

US president refuses to rule out tax rises for wealthiest Americans as he prepares to sign debt limit bill into law Barack Obama came out fighting in an attempt to undo the damage to his reputation caused by the long-running debt stand-off, and pacify Democrats who feel betrayed by the deal that will result in spending cuts totalling trillions of dollars. The president, who turns 50 tomorrow, faces a tough re-election fight next year. He needs not only to win back such disaffected Democrats, but also to get them out to campaign for him and vote in their droves, as they did in 2008. Speaking minutes after the Senate joined the House in approving the deal to prevent the US going into default, Obama offered an olive branch by putting tax rises back on the table. Republicans have insisted repeatedly over the last few days that the deal does not include tax rises. But Obama, in a short statement in the Rose Garden, said the country’s huge national debt could only be reduced through a combination of spending cuts and tax rises, particularly for the wealthy and big corporations such as those in the oil industry. “Everyone is going to have to chip in,” he said. “That is only fair. That’s the principle I’ll be fighting for during the next phase of this process.” He then attempted to turn the debate away from the debt ceiling towards jobs and pay, the issues that Democrats regard as the key to the 2012 election. But despite hints at ending tax breaks introduced by George W Bush, Obama may decide such a strategy would be too risky so close to a presidential election. He signed the debt bill late on Tuesday, just hours before the midnight Treasury deadline that could have seen the US default on its debts, a national humiliation likely to have had a huge impact on markets and the global economy. Democrats, from members of Congress to grassroots members, lined up to criticise the president for giving in to what they view as extortion tactics by Republicans aligned to the Tea Party movement. The Republican leader in the Senate, Mitch McConnell, added to the view that this was a Republican victory. Speaking minutes before the vote, McConnell told Republicans who had wanted even deeper spending cuts: “Although you may not see it this way, you’ve actually won this debate.” The ebullient mood among Republicans was reflected in an article yesterday in the New York Post by the conservative John Podhoretz , speechwriter to two Republican presidents: “If Barack Obama loses next November, we’ll look back on Sunday – July 31, 2011 – as the day he became a one-termer. He demonstrated the one key quality common to all unsuccessful leaders: haplessness.” He described Obama as looking powerless and compared Obama’s negotiating strategy to “Daffy Duck, who once ended a rapid-fire exchange at gunpoint with Bugs Bunny by turning the rifle on himself and pulling the trigger”. The Senate, following the House vote, yesterday passed the deal to raise the $14.3 trillion debt ceiling. It was passed by 74 votes to 26. Gabrielle Giffords, pictured above, the Arizona politician who was shot in the head in January, returned to Congress to participate in the vote. She said she had been “deeply disappointed” by the political wrangling that had taken the US to the brink. At the end of a period in which the debt row left Washington all but paralysed, Congress broke up for the summer and Obama will return to the campaign trail . The row forced him to cancel several fundraising opportunities, but he is scheduled to travel to his hometown of Chicago, where he celebrated on election night 2008, for a number of events. The Obama-led events are reported by the Chicago Sun-Times to cost those wishing to attend almost $40,000 a head. But his support for tax rises will resurrect the ideological battle when Congress returns next month. As part of the deal, a bipartisan committee has been set up to look in detail at where the cuts are to be made, reporting at the end of November. The committee will be the focal point as the battle between spending cuts and tax rises is resumed. Polls show voters increasingly frustrated and dismayed, not only with Obama’s performance over the crisis but also with members of Congress from both sides. A CNN/Orc poll found only 17% said politicians in Washington had behaved as responsible adults, while 77% believed they had behaved like spoiled children. Obama’s popularity dropped 5% in the polls over the last week, with most putting him around 45%, but a Gallup poll at the end of last week had support for him at just 40%. Michael McDonald, a specialist in polling and politics at George Mason University, said: “Everyone took a hit in the polls on this one. No one came out smelling of roses after this debacle. All took a short-term hit.” But he added that Obama’s approval ratings of 40% were problematic going into an election year. “That is dangerous territory,” he added. “I would not want to be down to 40%. We have to see whether it is short-term or long-term. I would say it is likely to be long-term because of the state of the economy, and if people are crystalising their opinions of Obama’s handling of the economy, he is in danger.” Obama received a boost in the polls in May when Osama bin Laden was killed but this quickly faded. One positive he may take from the debt row is that it offers a campaign strategy for next year, portraying the Republicans as extremists at the mercy of the Tea Party movement. Barack Obama US Congress United States US politics US economy US economic growth and recession Economics Ewen MacAskill guardian.co.uk

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Greeks fall back on family ties amid debt crisis

Greece has a strong tradition of family responsibility, but the Greek family is now coming under unbearable strain Themis Protopsaltou shifted packing boxes across the front room of his parents’ flat in Veria, an agricultural town in northern Greece. Aged 31, and married with a two-year-old son, he was reluctantly having to go the way of many crisis-hit Greeks: move back in with mum and dad. “I’ve got no choice,” he shrugged. “I’m young, I’ve taken every kind of labour possible since losing my job. But I can’t support a family on the occasional pay-cheque of €30 a day. I’m not ashamed. It’s not ordinary workers like me who have caused this crisis.” Protopsaltou, who trained in mechanical engineering, once did skilled work in construction, including building work for Lidl supermarkets. Now he sits by the phone waiting for random shift work sorting peaches for a local farm co-operative for €29.45 a day. His wife, who trained in chemical engineering, was so desperate she took a job gutting fish in a market from 6am until 11pm. But even that dried up. Their rent of €250 a month for a cramped apartment had become too much, and they couldn’t afford their own place. So Themis’s parents – who are in their 60s – agreed to move into a tiny abandoned shop adjoining their flat – after all, empty shops are now two-a-penny in Greece – while Themis renovated their flat for himself, his wife and son. This way, at least there is semblance of privacy. Other families were faced with moving back in with pensioner parents and great-grandparents living in tiny spaces, sometimes a family of five squeezed into one room. “In Greece the family is everything, thank God, because right now it’s all there is,” said Themis’s wife Maria, lighting a cigarette that she said she could hardly afford but helped her deal with the stress. “The family is the only thing that gives us faith. The government knows families will help each other: in a sense politicians are leaving it up to ageing parents to rescue the younger generations.” Even before the crisis, Greece’s social safety net was weak to non-existent and the strong ties of the traditional family filled the gap. For decades successive governments have neglected social structures knowing “mama and papa” would pick up the pieces. Unemployment benefits are small and don’t last long, while creche provisions, elderly care and state support are limited. Greece has one of the strongest traditions of family responsibility in Europe. In rural areas at least, grandparents often look after pre-school children while mothers work, families care for their elderly or disabled at home, parents help around the house and feed the younger generation, sometimes even into middle age. For Greeks, the most popular means to cope with the stress and anxiety of the financial crisis is to spend time with family and friends – more than in any other EU country, according to a recent report by the Boston Consulting Group. But the Greek family is now coming under unbearable strain and cracks are beginning to show in society. With pensions slashed, older parents often feel powerless to help their destitute offspring. One person losing a job can have a disastrous knock-on effect on a dependent extended family. Homelessness is rising, food banks in Athens are struggling to meet demand, and suicide rates have risen sharply along with requests for psychiatric counselling. Young couples can’t afford weddings and Greece, already struggling with its lowest birth-rate in decades, now has a generation of 30-somethings postponing having children because they can’t afford to feed them. Perks for couples having a third child have been slashed, leaving families worried about making ends meet or paying for the private tuition that increasingly supplements a lacklustre state education system. Veria, a historic town of around 50,000 people, sits in the centre of northern Greece’s rich and fertile fruit-farming region, surrounded by orchards of peach trees. On the shopping street the only premises doing much business is the “everything for one euro” shop. Elsewhere, a broker’s sign reads: “We buy gold teeth.” The Protopsaltous consider themselves to be Joe Average. “In fact, we’re the lucky ones,” Themis said. “I’ve still got some kind of work.” Since construction work dried up last year, Themis has accepted anything from travelling a 140-mile round-trip daily to work on road building, which has now stopped, to carrying carcasses in a meat market. Veria is the heart of Europe’s canned peach industry. Until recently, farm labour had mostly been confined to migrant workers. “Now there are 5,000 Greeks applying for 500 jobs for two to three months of seasonal work,” he said. The problem is the last-minute calls for random shifts, never knowing when there will be work or people laid off. He feels increasingly anxious. “I can’t sleep at night, worrying whether what little I do have in the bank is still safe or whether the banks will collapse.” Eight out of nine of the couples they are closest to are in the same situation. But at least the Protopsaltous resisted the steady flow of credit-card offers that landed on their doormat a couple of years ago. Their best friends, a tile-fitter and his wife who doesn’t work, borrowed €150,000 to build an apartment. With children of four, six and nine, they are now destitute and can’t pay it back. Faced with going to their parents’ flat and living five to one room, they have instead taken refuge in a storage space. “It’s 50m square and open-plan. The mother and father sleep on a pullout bed, they’ve tried to build plaster-board partitions but you can hear everything,” Maria said. For a Greek pater familias, this is emotionally hard. “Even for us, there’s a loss of all hope, a sense that you’re a failure. People feel embarrassed to go back to their parents and admit they haven’t succeeded.” Maria has long given up looking for a job that suits her qualifications. She has sold bathtubs and worked in a flower nursery. But the spectre hanging over all short-term, quick-fix jobs is that you’ll be paid under the counter with no national insurance contributions. “It’s a very stressful way of life.” “We’re so happy to be able to help Themis by giving him our flat,” said his mother Panagiota, 64, sitting in her new living room in the disused shop. “My generation has seen real poverty. But we still worry about how our children will get through this crisis.” Greek personal spending has been transformed. A recent survey found 73% of people had cut non-essential items. Maria hasn’t bought new shoes for years. The couple once ran two cars, but now rarely use one. They used to eat at a taverna once or twice a month, now it’s once a year. Supermarket trips happen perhaps once a month, and only to discount stores. Pre-prepared food is out, no more takeaway pizzas while watching the football. They make cheap stews that last two to three days. They used to go for coffee three times a week, but at €3 for an iced coffee they now make it at home. They have stopped their occasional weekend breaks to local hot springs. Greek domestic flights have dropped sharply as people cut travel. In one local village, even the periptero – one of the kiosks that are a key fixture of Greek life, selling cigarettes, drinks and snacks – was closing down. Cash-strapped locals were cutting down on cigarettes, no one was spending on chocolate, and definitely not bottled water, with families now refilling from the tap. Like most families in this northern region, the Protopsaltous depend on food donations from small family farms. Themis’s father, a pensioner farmer, brings them fruit, vegetables and eggs. “If not, we couldn’t afford eggs for €3 a box,” Maria said. The financial crisis has seen a boom in “back to the soil” movements in Greece, with people growing their own produce. “But if I worry about survival up here, imagine how people must be suffering in Athens with no family close by and no farms,” Maria said. “In Greece, we don’t have a social security network, we have friends and family,” said Tom Tziros, 47, an unemployed IT project manager in the northern city of Thessaloniki. His German wife worked in a local bookshop but with few able to spend cash on novels, her salary has been cut. The couple was forced to negotiate a cut in their €500 rent. Tziros’s father delivers him vegetables from his farm in the region. But his father’s pension has been cut and, with new charges for doctors’ visits, he can barely afford crucial health checks. Many of his friends in their 30s live with their parents. “We’d love to have children but how could we feed them? Maybe if we move to Germany we could have kids,” Tziros said. “Jobs are being cut, no one is buying anything. “Money just isn’t circulating in this country. The government doesn’t care about Greece. If they did, they would have found a proper solution. It’s not just about imposing taxes – you have to protect work if you want to tax it.” Europe Greece European debt crisis Angelique Chrisafis guardian.co.uk

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The debt ceiling deal President Obama struck with Republicans passed the House by a wide margin, which leads Nate Silver to one conclusion: Obama gave up too much. “Mr. Obama could have shifted the deal tangibly toward the left and still gotten a bill through without too much of a…

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It’s only been a year and a half since Dubai opened the world’s tallest building , and already Saudi Arabia is coming along to steal away the title. The country’s Kingdom Holding Co., run by a billionaire prince, announced today that its associate firm has made a $1.23 billion deal…

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Chris Matthews Slams Matt Kibbe for His ‘Tea Party’ Being Incapable of Governing

Click here to view this media I think Chris Matthews has finally had a belly-full of these TeaBirchers who’ve been taking the government hostage trying to get their balanced budget jammed through the legislature or at least force all of them to vote on it. They’ve been claiming — as FreedomWorks’ Matt Kibbe did here — that it would be acceptable to take us past the August 3rd deadline on default. Matthews railed on Kibbe for pretending that would be in any way a responsible way for members of Congress to act and blasted Kibbe and the so-called “tea party” House members that are beholden to his group and others as incapable of governing. After watching the last few interviews Matthews has had with tea partiers, I think Matthews (like a lot of us) is genuinely angry and tired of these people’s games. Tried of them threatening to burn the whole place down if they don’t get their way. Sadly unlike his cohort Rachel Maddow, he still paints them as being remotely grass roots instead of pointing out who’s funding them as Rachel has . He also still allows his viewers the impression that this is some genuine third party movement instead of a Republican re-branding effort to try to distance themselves from George W. Bush.

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