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9/11 10th anniversary: America remembers – live coverage

Services are being held at Ground Zero, the Flight 93 memorial and at the Pentagon, as America pays tribute to those who lost their lives. Almost 3,000 people died when al-Qaida terrorists hijacked four planes, changing the landscape of the 21st century 8.15am EST: Paul Harris – @paulxharris – will be visiting some of New York’s landmarks this morning to discover what the means for ordinary city dwellers. Here’s his first dispatch: On the streets of New York, away from the main ceremonies downtown, the heavy security presence of recent days is very much in evidence. Even in the residential neighbourhood of the East Village there were police cars visibly patrolling the streets, or parked on street corners. At Astor Place, police waited outside the subway station. In Times Square – itself the recent target of a failed car bomb attempt – the police presence is huge. Long lines of police cars snake down 42nd Strett, and there are mounted police on patrol. Bag searches are being carried out at the subway station. However, the streets are also full of joggers, people taking their dogs for a walk and others out buying the morning newspapers (naturally full of 9/11 coverage). In Times Square the heavy police presence provided even more opportunities for tourists to pose with cops wearing their New York uniforms. Some people who had clearly spent the night clubbing around Times Square and were only now heading home also took advantage. I saw one man wearing only a leopard skin coat and spandex shorts asking to pose with a police horse. The officer politely declined. 8.10am EST: Karen McVeigh is out and about at a ceremony for some of the firefighters killed on 9/11: I’ll be at the corner of 48th and 8th, home to the firefighters of 54 Engine, 4 Ladder, where a memorial service is being held this morning for those who were killed on September 11. Every firefighter who reported for duty that day died, 15 in all. This is the firehouse known as the ‘Pride of Midtown’, which President Barack Obama chose to visit a few days after Osama Bin Laden was killed by US forces in Pakistan in May. The president called it a “symbolic site of the extraordinary sacrifice” made that day. Today’s service is private for the families of those who died and the firefighters, but I am hoping to talk to some of them afterwards about what today means to them. Karen has posted this picture from the ceremony . You can follow her coverage on Twitter . 8am EST: Good morning, and welcome to the Guardian’s live coverage of the 10th anniversary of 9/11. A series of events is taking place across New York to remember those who died in the terrorist attacks. A service for victims’ families will be held at the site of the Twin Towers, where the 9/11 memorial will be dedicated to the 2,983 people who died in the US 10 years ago today. The memorial will open to the public on Monday , and features two pools, set in the locations of the towers. The names of those who died in the attack are inscribed into bronze parapets which surround the pools. On Saturday a service was held in Shanksville, Pennsyvania, where United Airlines Flight 93 crashed as passengers and crew struggled with hijackers, while events have also been held at the Pentagon memorial, in Arlington, Virginia, where American Airlines Flight 77 crashed, killing 59 passengers and crew and 125 on the ground. The 10-year hunt for Osama bin Laden came to an end in May, when US forces stormed his hideout in north-west Pakistan, although a CBS news poll this week showed that 67% of Americans feel no safer as a result of his death. President Barack Obama will be at the New York ceremony, which begins at 8.35am. The president warned on Saturday that al-Qaida was likely to strike the US again, providing a stark reminder of the challenges the country continues to face, but for today the focus is firmly on the events of 10 years ago, as the US remembers the 9/11 victims and their families. We’ll have the latest coverage from the tributes and services, with updates from our correspondents around New York. September 11 2001 United States New York US national security Global terrorism Barack Obama Adam Gabbatt guardian.co.uk

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Man charged over death of Wales fan

Michael Dye, 44, was found dead outside Wembley Stadium before the England v Wales Euro 2012 qualifier A 41-year-old man has been charged with manslaughter following the death of a Wales football fan who was found with head injuries outside Wembley Stadium. The man, who is yet to be named by police, was arrested in Worcestershire on Friday before being charged by detectives on Saturday night. A murder investigation was launched after Michael Dye, 44, was found injured on Tuesday evening near Gate C of the north London stadium, before England played Wales in a Euro 2012 qualifier. He was taken to Northwick Park hospital but later died. A postmortem examination showed the cause of death to be blunt trauma to the back of the head. A Scotland Yard spokesman said the suspect was being held in custody at West Mercia police station and is due to appear in court on Monday. Six men who were initially arrested in connection with the death have now all been released without charge, he added. “We have been informed that a 41-year-old man has been charged with manslaughter following the death of Michael Dye,” said the spokesman. “We are awaiting confirmation of his details and where he will be appearing in court on Monday.” Acting Detective Chief Inspector Sheila Stewart said the incident “emerged from a moment of brutal violence with catastrophic consequences”. Thousands of tributes have been paid to the Cardiff fan on a dedicated Facebook page, with several messages referring to his wife, Nathalie, and children. There was applause for Dye before Saturday’s npower Championship match against Doncaster, while both teams wore black armbands. The club chairman, Gethin Jenkins, said Dye was “clearly a committed and passionate supporter” and that his death was “extremely sad”. Crime Wales guardian.co.uk

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9/11 anniversary: services and ceremonies held throughout UK

Relatives of British victims of World Trade Centre attacks attend service at Grosvenor chapel, near US embassy in London Church services and ceremonies, including services at St Paul’s cathedral and Westminster Abbey, are being held across Britain to commemorate the 67 Britons among the 2,977 who died in the 9/11 attacks on the US in 2001. Relatives of the victims attended a service at the Grosvenor chapel, near the US embassy in London, where the deputy US ambassador, Barbara Stephenson, lit a memorial candle. Prayers were read for hundreds of members of the emergency services who died 10 years ago. Canon Jim Rosenthal said: “Remembering such horrific scenes is not easy. But remembrance is not static – it’s a constantly growing and evolving action, which gives us the opportunity to take hold of the past and transform it to reach out with grace, understanding and healing.” On Sunday afternoon, the families will attend a ceremony in the September 11 memorial garden in Grosvenor Square, opposite the embassy, with a minute’s silence taking place and 67 white roses being laid. At St Paul’s, 2,000 people attended a “remembering with hope” service, which also marked the 20th anniversary of the Firefighter’s Memorial Trust. UK firefighters laid a wreath at the memorial outside Westminster Abbey in memory of the 243 members of the New York fire department who were killed. The day will end with a service of remembrance and reconciliation at Westminster Abbey. The service also marks Awareness Sunday, part of a campaign by the Awareness Foundation, an international charity founded in 2003 in response to the rise in religious conflict and violence across the world. The Archbishop of Canterbury, Rowan Williams, a patron of the foundation, was two blocks away from the Twin Towers at the time of the attack. He recalled on the BBC Radio 2 Sunday programme : “The first thing we wanted to do, of course, was to sit and pray, and that’s what we did … we did that as we heard the unforgettable noise of the first tower coming down.” In Cornwall, there was a minute’s silence at the memorial stone in Hayle, the birthplace of Rick Rescorla, a director of security at Morgan Stanley, who led thousands of workers to safety, singing Cornish songs to keep their spirits up. Rescorla was last seen climbing the stairs of a burning tower to help evacuate more people. In Devon, bell-ringers played John Lennon’s Imagine on the bells of Exeter cathedral. There were also ceremonies and services in Birmingham, Plymouth, Truro and in Northern Ireland. In Scotland, faith leaders and politicians will join a peace walk in Edinburgh, the deputy first minister, Nicola Sturgeon, is attending an inter-faith service at Cathcart Old Parish church in Glasgow, and the first minister Alex Salmond is attending a service at St Nicholas Kirk in Aberdeen. September 11 2001 Global terrorism Maev Kennedy guardian.co.uk

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Swedish police arrest four on suspicion of plotting terrorist attack

Arts centre in Gothenburg evacuated after police received threat, before suspects were held in raid Swedish police have arrested four people on suspicion of preparing a terror attack and have evacuated an arts centre in the country’s second largest city. The four were arrested in Gothenburg and were suspected of plotting terrorism, security police spokesman Stefan Johansson said. It was not immediately clear whether the arrests were linked to the 10-year anniversary of the September 11 terrorist attacks in the US. Police in Gothenburg said they had evacuated an arts centre in the city overnight on Sunday due to a threat deemed to pose “serious danger for life, health or substantial damage of property”. They said they had assisted security police with the arrest and declined to give any further comments. Mia Christersdotter Norman, the head of the Roda Sten arts centre in Gothenburg said about 400 people were celebrating the opening of an international biennial for contemporary art when police ordered everyone to leave the building. “Around midnight I was called out by the police and they said there was a threat to the building and asked us to quietly stop the party, which we did and everyone left,” Christersdotter Norman told Associated Press. “Police have searched the building but they didn’t find anything,” she said, adding the arts center would re-open as usual on Sunday. Sweden raised its terror threat alert level from low to elevated in October last year. In December, suicide bomber Taimour Abdulwahab blew himself up in downtown Stockholm among panicked Christmas shoppers, injuring two people, causing shock in a country that had largely been insulated from terrorism. The 2007 drawing of the prophet Muhammad by a Swedish cartoonist, Lars Vilks, raised tensions. In May, Vilks was assaulted while giving a speech in Uppsala, and an unsuccessful attempt was made to burn down his home. His cartoon was reportedly the inspiration for Abulwahab’s attack. In a report detailing the extent of extremist Islamist networks in Sweden, ordered months before that attack, the Sapo security agency had downplayed the risk of terror attacks in the Nordic country. Activity among radicalised Muslims in Sweden is primarily directed toward supporting militants in other countries, including Somalia, Afghanistan and Pakistan, it said. Scandinavia has largely been focused on Islamic terrorism since the September 11 attacks, but in the wake of the killing spree in Norway in July by Anders Behring Breivik – a rightwing, anti-immigrant Norwegian – the European police agency said it was setting up a taskforce to help investigate non-Islamist threats in Scandinavian countries. Meanwhile in the US, as the final touches were being put in place for Sunday’s commemoration of the anniversary at Ground Zero, heightened security was clearly visible on the streets of Manhattan. All lorries were being stopped on George Washington Bridge and there was increased security at all other bridges and tunnels. Police roadblocks were set up at key intersections of the city, including 59th Street and Lexington Avenue. A roadblock was set up in the middle of Times Square itself, and on main cross-streets leading into it, causing virtual gridlock. On Friday, vehicle checkpoints were in place in key locations across New York, with police stopping vans and lorries passing through the city in response to specific and credible intelligence that a car bomb was planned to disrupt the 10th anniversary of 9/11. On Thursday night, Hillary Clinton said the plot originated with al-Qaida and its target was New York and Washington. She said the threat had been made public so as to activate a “great network of unity and support” against those who would wreak violence on innocent people. “It is a continuing reminder of the stakes in our struggle against extremism,” she said. One of the key findings of the 9/11 commission report that looked at the events leading up to the attacks on New York and Washington 10 years ago was that there were ample warnings in the weeks leading up to it of a massive attack in the pipeline, yet the intelligence was not acted upon and shared between agencies. Sweden Europe Global terrorism Ed Pilkington Ewen MacAskill guardian.co.uk

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Video: MRC’s September 11 ‘Tribute to the Media’

“A Tribute to the Media,” a ten-minute video, honoring television coverage of the aftermath of the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks. This was shown at the Media Research Center’s “DisHonors Awards” held in Washington, DC on January 17, 2002 when we took a time-out for a few minutes to pay tribute to the patriotic work of journalists during the national crisis. The video starts with clips of the breaking news reporting that Tuesday morning, moves to world reaction, memorial services and search efforts; then to the patriotism displayed by Americans, the U.S. military response, Dan Rather and Geraldo Rivera rallying behind President Bush. It includes powerful commentaries from two leading journalists who have since passed away: Tim Russert and Tony Snow.

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Twin Towers and terrorism: the impact 10 years on | Jason Burke/Francis Fukuyama

It was the day that changed the world for ever. Or did it? Ten years on, two leading commentators, Jason Burke and Francis Fukuyama , offer an analysis of its long-term impact, and how terrorism works Francis Fukuyama: The legacy of that terrible time will be less significant than we then feared In the immediate aftermath of the September 11 attacks, there were grand assertions that “everything was different” and that the “world had changed.” We were forced to confront a bearded man in a cave spouting incomprehensible invective about crusaders and jihad, and reorient foreign policy in dramatic ways. But with 10 years’ hindsight, did the world actually change on that date? And what will Osama bin Laden’s historical legacy be? The answer to both questions is: not much. It is my view that in a longer historical perspective, al-Qaida will be seen as a mere blip or diversion. Bin Laden got lucky that day and pulled off a devastating, made-for-media attack. The United States then overreacted, invading Iraq and making anti-Americanism a self-fulfilling prophecy. But while al-Qaida’s form of radical Islamism appealed to a minority of discontented individuals, it never represented a dominant social trend in the Middle East. The broader and more important story that was emerging in the past decade was the social modernisation of the Arab world that has resulted in the Arab Spring. People could be excused for thinking that the world had changed after September 11. The World Trade Centre attacks involved the killing of innocent people for its own sake, a nihilistic act that could have claimed the lives of 10 or 100 times as many victims, had the technological means been available. The threat of weapons of mass destruction had been around for a long time, but up until that point no one seemed malevolent enough to use them in this fashion. In the days after the attacks, every thoughtful person began to realise how vulnerable modern technological societies were. It turned out, however, that once the world’s intelligence and security establishment was turned to focus on the problem of Islamist terrorism, it was possible to mount a defence. The fact that there have been no follow-up attacks on American soil was not for want of trying; but many plots were uncovered and broken up before they could be realised. The truly frightening possibility remains terrorist access to nuclear or biological weapons, but the route to these capabilities is not so easy for groups like al-Qaida and its affiliates. The real problem was political. As the terrorism expert Brian Jenkins points out, democratic publics always overreact to the threat of terrorism. It would have been very difficult for an American administration of any stripe to tell the public the truth after September 11, namely, that western civilisation was not facing an existential threat from al-Qaida, but rather a long twilight struggle best fought by police and intelligence agencies. The Bush administration did much the opposite, elevating the “war on terrorism” to the level of 20th-century struggles against fascism and communism, and justifying its invasion of Iraq on these grounds. By neglecting Afghanistan and occupying Iraq, it turned both countries into magnets for new terrorist recruitment, diminished its own moral stature through prisoner abuse, and tarnished the name of democracy promotion. September 11 spawned many theories of a Muslim or Arab exception to the global trend toward democracy. After the green uprising in Iran and the Arab Spring, we can see clearly that this was one area where the Bush administration was right: there was no cultural or religious obstacle to the spread of democratic ideas in the Middle East; only, it would have to come about through the people’s own agency and not as a gift of a foreign power. Even if democracy does not emerge quickly in places such as Egypt and Tunisia, the popular mobilisation we have seen signals a key social trend far more powerful than anything a Bin Laden or Zawahiri could muster. September 11 will have legacies. Al-Qaida and its affiliates continue to operate, and may still succeed in downing an airliner or exploding a car bomb in a shopping mall. Pakistan, with its stockpile of nuclear weapons, is a very scary place, the one part of the Muslim world where trends have been going in the wrong direction. In western countries, distrust of Muslims has grown since 9/11, as evidenced by the controversy of the so-called “Ground Zero” mosque in the US or the rising of anti-immigrant populist parties in Europe. All of this will make the already difficult integration of immigrant communities much more difficult to accomplish. Since 2001 the most important world-historical story has been the rise of China. This is a development whose impact will almost certainly be felt in 50 years’ time. Whether anyone will remember Osama bin Laden and al-Qaida at that remove is a different matter. Francis Fukuyama is a senior fellow at the Freeman Spogli Institute, Stanford University, and author of The Origins of Political Order: From Prehuman Times to the French Revolution (Profile). Jason Burke: Terrorists are made by local experience, not grand ideology In all the breathless statements by rebels over recent weeks in Libya, one in particular contained a few simple words that explained much of the violence in many conflicts over recent years. Why are you fighting, a young man outside Tripoli was asked by a reporter. Because his father and brother had been imprisoned by Gaddafi earlier this year, the rebel said, and so he was at war to set them free. The rebel campaign in Libya is very different from many others that we have seen in recent years. Wars in Afghanistan, Iraq, Yemen and Somalia and the terrorism in the west and elsewhere have all had their own specific qualities. There is, however, one common element among all these conflicts. It is that those engaged in them are very rarely fighting for big ideas or ideologies. They may invoke concepts of global jihad or talk of civilisational clashes or human rights and democracy in their propaganda but the reasons that they are holding a weapon are usually much more mundane. Those reasons are to be found in the experience of the individual, not the mass generalities of the crowd; in the particular not the general. This helps us understand not just the nature of modern militancy, but the nature of these wars and of the world that has produced them. Interviewing militants is often a depressing experience. Frequently ignorant and uninformed, their world view is composed of a mix of repetitive stereotypes, conspiracy theories, prejudices and misunderstanding. But the stories of how they were drawn into violence are always interesting. Take Didar, a failed suicide bomber in Iraq, whom I interviewed in the summer of 2002. He had no grand explanation for why he had ended up with explosives around his waist heading into a police office. He simply said that he had followed a friend who persuaded him to go on “an adventure” to a training camp and that one thing led to another. Abit, an impressionable baker’s son from a small town in Pakistan, ended up in a Taliban training camp for similar reasons. Again and again the testimony of European militants – a group of London and Luton-based militants active in 2004, Belgians and French from 2008, a German militant who returned from Pakistan last year – stresses not ideology but small group dynamics. One spoke of the “camaraderie” of frontline fighting with the Taliban. The 9/11 hijackers were famously, and accurately, described as “a bunch of guys” by a German prosecutor. In 2005 I investigated a mass suicide attack in southern Thailand in which a dozen young men died. The only link between them was that they were all part of the same football team. This shouldn’t necessarily surprise us. Terrorism is a social activity and the path into violence is determined by social interaction as much as any political or religious programme. The question to ask about radicalisation is therefore not “who?” and still less “why?”, but “how?”. Security services like MI5 have now adapted profiling to focus on networks and processes, not characteristics that supposedly render an individual vulnerable. Families including existing or former militants are of a particular interest. American officials in Iraq say that the main predictor of extremism is having a brother active in extremism or in prison. Another element, now emerging from Libya, is the importance of local specificity. There are three groups of rebels in Libya, each with their own characteristics and each from a different part of the country. The dynamic between these groups will determine how the situation evolves, not big ideas. Indeed, over recent years, “the local” has trumped “the global” every time in terms of influence on the evolution of events. Excepting a small number of spectacular headline strikes such as the 9/11 operation itself, the vast proportion, 95% perhaps, of violent attacks have occurred within a couple of hours’ travel, at most, from where the perpetrators lived or grew up. The 7/7 bombers travelled no more than a couple of hours by train. Those responsible for attacks in Madrid in March 2004 were living in a rundown district only a mile or so from the station where most of their victims died. 80% of Taliban militants killed or captured in Afghanistan are within 15 miles of their homes, at least according to US military intelligence officers I spoke to in Kabul in June. The greatest weakness of Osama bin Laden’s al-Qaida and its ideology was its failure to respect cultural difference. Al-Qaida speaks Arabic. Only about a third of the world’s Muslims do. Al-Qaida wants a new Muslim caliphate to replace modern states. But most people from Morocco to Malaysia are attached to their nations – as recent flag-waving protests have shown. Why did the tribes of western Iraq turn against al-Qaida in 2005 and 2006? Because they no longer thought that the foreign brand of extremism and the particularly unpleasant people who were propagating it served their communities’ – and their own – interests. So they switched sides and al-Qaida in Iraq was finished. The tension between local identities and global ideologies is most clearly seen with reactions to terrorist violence in the Islamic world over the last decade. Condoning bombings a long way away is much easier than supporting someone planting IEDs on your street. Backing violence is easier when it stays virtual. In country after country across the Muslim world, support for Bin Laden and his tactics collapsed when attacks started close to home. In Jordan, it dropped from 57% before bloody attacks on hotels in November 2005 to under 20% in their immediate aftermath. The same phenomenon was seen elsewhere. What is the overall lesson? The last decade has shown us that our western confidence in globalisation and the convergence of cultures and communities was vastly exaggerated. Communities everywhere are much more parochial, more limited, more resistant to outside influence than ideologues of all kinds would like. Local identities, customs, cultures, ties of blood and shared values are still much more important than any supposed convergence of lifestyles. Yes, there are global economic flows and everyone can hum the soundtrack of Titanic . Yes, there are enthusiastic demands for democracy and rights of free expression or association. But these do not determine why people take up guns. A chaotic, fast-evolving and complex world without overarching narratives generates conflicts in its own image. Politics and war remain local. When it comes to why people take up arms, for whatever purpose, there are no global rules, only individuals. Jason Burke’s new book The 9/11 Wars is published by Penguin September 11 2001 Global terrorism Arab and Middle East unrest guardian.co.uk

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Nato military base attacked by suicide bomber in Afghanistan

Taliban claims responsibility for truck-bomb that injured 89, including 77 soldiers, at air base in Wardak At least 77 Nato soldiers have been wounded after a suicide bomber drove an explosive-laden truck blew up to a military base. The Taliban claimed responsibility for the bombing, on the eve of the 10th anniversary of the September 11 attacks, making it one of the bloodiest days of the war. The blast tore a six-metre (20ft) hole in the wall of the base in Sayed Abad district of the eastern province of Wardak, after the bombs exploded about 75 metres from the entrance to the base. The truck was filled with nine tonnes of explosives, the Taliban said in a message sent to journalists. It is believed many of the victims were injured by a fire caused by the explosion that occurred at 5pm local time (12.30pm GMT) on Saturday. US army spokesman Major David Eastburn said 50 US soldiers were among a total of 89 wounded but a separate source put the number of US wounded at 77, with 59 of those having to be taken by Medevac helicopter to nearby bases. A statement from the Nato-led International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) said “all are being treated and none is immediately life threatening.” The nationalities of the others injured were unknown. Most of the force of the explosion was absorbed by the protective barrier at the outpost entrance but the impact to the compound is readily repairable and operations are continuing,” the statement said. Recent high-profile insurgent attacks have often used a suicide bomb to commence complex attacks but ISAF said there was no attempt by others to enter the base. In Sayed Abad district, about 45 miles south-west of Kabul, insurgents used rocket-propelled grenades last month to bring down a helicopter killing 38 people, including 30 US soldiers. Militants also attacked the US military’s main airport in Afghanistan with rockets. The attack on Bagram airfield killed two Afghan security guards and wounded seven other people, including three US soldiers, a military source said. Two separate bomb attacks in the country’s east and north killed 10 civilians on Saturday, including three women and two children, local officials said. Despite the carnage, the 10th anniversary of the September 11 attacks was being marked at a ceremony at the US Embassy in Kabul with talk of progress being made. “The last 10 years have not been easy, both the international coalition and Afghans have endured much hardship,” said the commander of foreign military forces in Afghanistan, General John Allen said. “We have reversed the momentum of the insurgents. On this sacred day of remembrance, I can say with confidence that together we’re on the path of success in Afghanistan.” Afghanistan US military United States guardian.co.uk

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Open Thread with The Professional Left Weekly Podcast: The Reagan Debate; and the Professional Left Five Year Plan?

enlarge Credit: The Professional Left Time for your weekly podcast with our own Driftglass and Bluegal, otherwise known as the Professional Left. You can listen to the archives at The Professional Left Podcast and make a donation there if you’d like to help them keep these going and you can follow them on Facebook at The Professional Left Podcast with Driftglass and Blue Gal . Enjoy and have a great weekend everyone.

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Newstalgia Reference Room – Inflation: The Economic Plague – 1970.

enlarge Nothing, it seems, ever changes. Click here to view this media The ’70s were interesting times (interesting in the Chinese curse sense). We had Inflation, Stagflation, Whip Inflation Now and host of other economic maladies in between. In 1970, NBC Radio as part of their Second Sunday Documentary series, ran this episode called Inflation: The Economic Plague from March 3, 1970. On hand were a host of pundits, including Milton Friedman and the Chicago School of Economics, which loomed large during the Nixon years and every sign that things weren’t getting any better or planning on getting better any time soon. And 41 years later, it’s still about the economy.

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Rick Perry Already Walking Back His Social Security is a ‘Ponzi Scheme’ Comments

Click here to view this media As Lawrence O’Donnell noted in his “Rewrite” segment this Friday, after not realizing when to shut his mouth during the debate at the Reagan Library this week on whether or not he actually believed that Social Security is a “Ponzi scheme” and a “monstrous lie” to our kids, it appears he’s now attempting to “rewrite” his remarks. From ThinkProgress — Rick Perry Says It’s ‘Misinformation’ To Suggest He Wants To Abolish Social Security : Today at a campaign stop in Newport Beach, California, one attendee asked Perry for his reaction to Romney’s charge that he wants to “abolish Social Security because it’s a Ponzi scheme.” Perry responded, “I’d say that’s misinformation “: ATTENDEE: Romney’s advisers said you want to abolish Social Security because it’s a Ponzi scheme. What do you say to that? PERRY: I’d say that’s misinformation. We just want to fix it. ATTENDEE: Are they distorting your record? PERRY: (No response, shakes his head.) O’Donnell went on to explain why Social Security is not a Ponzi scheme and why it’s not going to go broke, ever. There is the matter of how much we are willing to put into the program and how much it should be paying out, but it’s fully funded for years to come as we’ve discussed here already, as long as it has workers paying their payroll taxes and continuing to fund the system. O’Donnell finished up by explaining why Ponzi might have got a kick out of Perry. O’DONNELL: Charles Ponzi who was as much of an egomaniac as any of our politicians, would probably get a big kick out of Rick Perry. When Ponzi got out of prison for the last time in Boston, it was actually in Charlestown, where he got out of prison, he told reporters, “I went looking for trouble, and I got it.” If the Perry campaign does not yet have a motto, I know of nothing more fitting than the words of Charles Ponzi, “I went looking for trouble, and I got it.”

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