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Occupy Wall Street: At Zuccotti Park, Conflict Arises Among Occupiers

Events at Zuccotti Park, the epicenter of the Occupy Wall Street movement in Lower Manhattan, have become increasingly dramatic in recent days, as egos have clashed, visions competed, and the unity of the protesters has been questioned. The debate over whether or not the protesters should draft a list of demands led to a New York Times piece that dominated a recent General Assembly discussion. Along with complaints from area residents and continued pressure from the city about cleanliness and noise, growing concerns about safety and theft on the premises, and the proposal of a Spokes Council which for two nights in a row failed to gain consensus from the GA, it has been a long week at Zuccotti Park. The most vocal members of the movement will say quite clearly there are no “leaders,” and the avoidance of that term has led to what some view as a lack of direction for Occupy Wall Street in New York. Differences among the occupiers are inevitable — and as many working groups will tell you, it has been difficult to get things done. There’s no shortage of talking, and you never know who will take hold of the People’s Mic. Persuasive speakers on all sides can give General Assembly meetings a roller-coaster feel. Someone always seems to oppose a budget proposal, or have a strong dissenting opinion on something that seems on its way to sure passage. Just one voice joining the debate at the last minute has the power to sway the entire discussion. With every proposal, there are questions and there are concerns, and the process continues and continues. The facilitators say numerous times the group has strayed off process. Questions are sometimes ignored for being “off-topic” even when they aren’t, time constraints are cited and frustrations boil over. Occupiers curse, speak out of turn and sometimes they just keep on talking, despite “Mic Check” calls over them. Those on all sides alienate each other. This is what I have witnessed at Zuccotti the past few nights. On Thursday, the matter at hand was a proposal from Pulse — the group of drummers — for $8,000 for new musical instruments. They say they hoped to secure the funding after a $5,000 handmade drum was sabotaged and destroyed during a rain storm. They say that because they’ve been there since Day 1, they deserve the funding more than anyone. “We have worked for you! Appreciate us!” the leader of the proposal shouted angrily to the GA in response to voices of dissent. After a long debate, the proposal was tabled. No funding for the drummers. After the meeting, one drummer cursed and yelled at GA members for their decision. He confronted another occupier and the two shouted obscenities back and forth; a physical fight nearly erupted but a peacemaker came between them. On Friday, a proposal for a Spokes Council — a group led by cluster representatives that would make budgetary and logistical decisions — was debated at length. The General Assembly meeting Friday night lasted from 7 p.m. to 1:30 a.m., even though they’re officially only scheduled to last until 9 p.m. and quiet hours are supposed to begin after 11 p.m. The NYPD decided not to disrupt the assembly, and the People’s Mic quieted as a sign of respect for the final two and a half hours. But those two and a half hours were just as tense as the drummers’ proposal. General Assembly members complained that they would lose power if a Spokes Council was formed, while facilitators and speakers for the working group behind the proposal insisted that the council would decentralize power in a necessary way. They argued that anyone could be part of working groups and clusters, which would each have a representative on the Spokes Council. One prominent organizer made the point that there would even be a group for people not in a working group, so everyone would be included in some way. The concerns nonetheless continued. Occupiers raised their voices louder, saying they felt disenfranchised and confused. A two-sided document jam-packed with text contained all pertinent information about the proposal, but only five minutes were set aside to read it. “This is too confusing to read in five minutes,” said one occupier. “We need more time,” said another. The two sides went back and forth. “This is a living document! It can be added to, amended to,” a speaker pleaded. Another said the proposal has been in the works for three weeks, “workshopped to death,” and they did not want to draw the process out longer. As the debate continued, those behind the proposal conceded, “No system is perfect.” In the end, the proponents of the Spokes Council, which included several working group members and a Finance Committee representative, caved to the dissenters — even after making a significant amendment that would allow the General Assembly to dissolve the Spokes Council at any time. The occupiers were granted more time to consider the document; they now have five days before the GA reconvenes for a vote on Wednesday. That decision was made after 16 blocked the proposal, meaning they were prepared to leave the movement if it was passed in its current form. They gave many different reasons for opposing it. But an occupier who favored the Spokes Council wasn’t convinced, saying in disbelief after the discussion ended, “That’s it? What have we been doing the last 5 hours?” The conflicts among occupiers can’t continue forever, and the most passionate organizers know this. They’re planning to “Occupy Central Park” next month — on 11-11-11 — and hope the move will bring the protesters together again and unite them with their counterparts across the world. But there’s no telling what will happen at Zuccotti Park before then. And the cold of winter lingers.

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Refresh Roundup: week of October 17, 2011

Your smartphone and / or tablet is just begging to get updated. From time to time, these mobile devices are blessed with maintenance refreshes, bug fixes, custom ROMs and anything in between, and so many of them are floating around that it’s easy for a sizable chunk to get lost in the mix. To make sure they don’t escape without notice, we’ve gathered every possible update, hack, and other miscellaneous tomfoolery from the last week and crammed them into one convenient roundup. If you find something available for your device, please give us a shout at tips at engadget dawt com and let us know. Enjoy! Official Android updates Given up on the HTC Thunderbolt’s mystical Gingerbread update? HTC’s still insisting that it’s on its way, despite multiple delays . This time, however, the OEM isn’t giving a timeframe for ETA. [ Droid-Life ] The T-Mobile G2 was boosted to Android 2.3.3 in July , but we’re glad to see the device getting yet another refresh. This time the G2 is getting hooked up with 2.3.4, which promises better battery life and improved data roaming, among other minor fixes. [ AndroidCentral ] What other device is getting 2.3.4 this week? The Sony Ericsson Xperia Arc , that’s what. It’s only rolled out to parts of Europe and the Middle East, so be patient if you haven’t seen an update show up for your unit yet. [ AndroidCentral ] Up north, the LG Shine Plus on Telus is getting Android 2.3.3. [ MobileSyrup ] Anyone using a Motorola Atrix or Milestone 2 in the UK should expect to have an update to Gingerbread sometime next month. [ Unwired View ] Motorola mentioned on its Facebook page that the Droid Bionic will receive Ice Cream Sandwich, though it wouldn’t share details on when. [Thanks, Grant] Unofficial Android updates, custom ROMs and misc. hackery Amazingly enough, the Samsung Epic 4G is still missing Gingerbread (officially, at least). In hopefully what could be considered another step forward, Sammy’s pushed out the kernel source for Android 2.3. Keep those fingers crossed, Epic 4G owners. [ AndroidCentral ] Motorola released the kernel source for the Droid Bionic . [ AndroidCentral ] Speaking of kernel source, HTC’s also gone ahead and released code for the myTouch 4G Slide , Desire (Gingerbread), and the Raider 4G. [ AndroidCentral ] Three days after its kernel was made public , T-Mobile’s version of the Samsung Galaxy S II has now been successfully rooted. [ Phandroid ] Looking down at your HTC Sensation 4G (or any other Sense 3.0 or higher device) filled with Dre envy? Wish you had the cool Beats that’s starting to trickle out to the latest HTC handsets ? Leave it to XDA to find a way to port the new audio functionality over to any Sense 3.0 or 3.5 phone without having to ditch your current ROM. [ Droid-Life ] Anyone frustrated by the news about the HTC Thunderbolt above and is savvy to the rooting world may want to check out a new Gingerbread RUU just leaked for the device. [ Android Police ] Other platforms Select Symbian Anna devices are currently getting a bug fix. Sadly, it’s not Belle. [ Unwired View ] The Windows Phone Team has reported that the Mango update is available to nearly everyone now. [ Windows Team Blog ] The iPhone Dev Team brought out a new version of Redsn0w, 0.9.9b7, which was designed to significantly reduce the amount of time it takes to jailbreak your iDevice. [ Pocketnow ] Refreshes we covered this week HP TouchPad gets webOS 3.0.4 update Kindle 3 gets software upgrade, ready to soar into the cloud Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich roundup Android 4.0 now official, includes revamped design and enhancements galore HTC: we’re reviewing ICS and determining future plans Motorola RAZR to get ICS in early 2012 ICS unofficially ported to Samsung Nexus S 4G Sony Ericsson bringing ICS to Xperia handsets? ASUS: Android 4.0 tablets coming by end of this year HTC’s new audio API beats OpenSense into developers Refresh Roundup: week of October 17, 2011 originally appeared on Engadget on Sun, 23 Oct 2011 10:00:00 EDT. Please see our terms for use of feeds . Permalink

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Media Coverage of Occupy Wallstreet

In this video the always-fantastic Jay Smooth, of Ill Doctrine , spends just over four minutes offering his perspective on the Occupy Wall Street movement. He likes it. And, he says, more importantly, the media coverage and treatment of the protests is telling us a lot about who’s in bed with who, politically speaking. ( View original at http://thesocietypages.org/socimages ) In this video the always-fantastic… Broadcasting platform : YouTube Source : Sociological Images Discovery Date : 19/10/2011 23:28 Number of articles : 5

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Media Coverage of Occupy Wallstreet

In this video the always-fantastic Jay Smooth, of Ill Doctrine , spends just over four minutes offering his perspective on the Occupy Wall Street movement. He likes it. And, he says, more importantly, the media coverage and treatment of the protests is telling us a lot about who’s in bed with who, politically speaking. ( View original at http://thesocietypages.org/socimages ) In this video the always-fantastic… Broadcasting platform : YouTube Source : Sociological Images Discovery Date : 19/10/2011 23:28 Number of articles : 5

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Media Coverage of Occupy Wallstreet

In this video the always-fantastic Jay Smooth, of Ill Doctrine , spends just over four minutes offering his perspective on the Occupy Wall Street movement. He likes it. And, he says, more importantly, the media coverage and treatment of the protests is telling us a lot about who’s in bed with who, politically speaking. ( View original at http://thesocietypages.org/socimages ) In this video the always-fantastic… Broadcasting platform : YouTube Source : Sociological Images Discovery Date : 19/10/2011 23:28 Number of articles : 5

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Manchester United v Manchester City | Scott Murray

• Click on auto-refresh for all the latest action • Ping your emails to scott.murray@guardian.co.uk • The Premier League table in running 83 min: Welbeck is the latest United man to suffer the wrath of Clattenburg. He’s booked for a late trip on Richards, who was attempting to skidaddle down the right. 81 min: WHAT A BRILLIANT GOAL, THEY KEEP COMING!!! Manchester United 1-3 Manchester City. Fletcher takes up possession in the middle of the City half. He slips a ball to his right, then gets it back immediately from Hernandez. He then sidefoots a beautiful curler into the top-right corner, Hart left with no chance whatsoever. A world-class finish by the Scotland captain. They couldn’t, could they? 79 min: Smalling is booked for dragging down Richards, as the City man looked to power forward into the box. City’s movement is too much for the ten men of United. 77 min: On the field, Dzeko is sent clear into the area down the inside-right channel by Silva. He looks for the bottom-left corner, but De Gea saves brilliantly with his leg. On the City bench, Balotelli and Aguero are passing the time by smacking each other on the head. 75 min: Dzeko is booked for standing on Jones’ foot. Nasri comes on for Aguero. 74 min: It’s getting surreal. Silva should have made it four, trying to slot home a dropping ball at the right-hand post. He slices his effort miles over the bar. 73 min: “You’re getting sacked in the morning,” trill the City supporters to Fergie. The dry Mancunian wit. 71 min: Dzeko replaces Balotelli. His first contribution is to hammer a shot from the left-hand side of the box, sending the ball flying just wide right of goal. “This result is all due to the Stone Roses creating a time warp effect,” suggests Ronan Gingles. “When they were in their pomp, City spanked United 5-1. They went away (after the first album really) and Fergie’s side came to utterly dominate English football. Now they’re back along with Norwich and QPR. Good news for Luton Town?” 69 min: GOAL!!! Manchester United 0-3 Manchester City. This isn’t dissimilar to the second goal, another slick passing move, and one that’s possibly even better. Toure slides the ball down the inside-right channel for Balotelli, who instantly flicks the ball out to Milner. Milner rolls the ball out to Richards, who drops a shoulder, reaches the byline, and fires a low cross in for Aguero, running in to slide the ball under De Gea. Again, if Barcelona etc. 66 min: Nowt comes of the corner. The ball’s shuttled upfield. Evra picks up a booking for showing a couple of studs in a 50-50 challenge with Barry. 65 min: A double change by United: Nani and Anderson off, Hernandez and Jones on. Hernandez wins a corner down the right with his first touch of the ball. 64 min: Silva gains a yard on Smalling down the left, and whips another low cross into the area, this time from the left. Ferdinand is on hand to clear, ahead of Balotelli, lurking with the smell of a hat-trick in his nostrils. 62 min: Anderson is booked for sending Aguero crashing to the floor. At this point, United are all over the show. It’s worth remembering, however, that City are City, time-honoured dab hands at coming unstuck at the hands of their neighbours. Or are City now New City? What a half hour of football we’ve got coming up. 60 min: WHAT A GOAL II: Manchester United 0-2 Manchester City. Sheer passing brilliance from City, who triangulate down the right. Silva breaks into the area, draws Anderson, and frees Milner towards the byline with a tasty backflick. Milner hammers a low cross towards the far post, where Balotelli sidefoots powerfully home. No t-shirt hi-jinx this time; City are too busy celebrating wildly, for a start. A great goal. If Barcelona had scored it, etc., and so on. 58 min: Some decent pressure from United here, who have responded well to their latest setback. Young diddles around down the left; corner. On the right, Rooney drops a shoulder, can’t get a shot away, and finds Anderson, whose effort is deflected out for another corner. Rooney has a low shot after coming inside from the left; Hart gathers. This is hectic, shapeless, and very entertaining. 56 min: Milner wheechs a low, hard cross straight through the United six-yard box from the right. Aguero isn’t far away from connecting at the far post. This is like a basketball match at the moment, with the caveat that basketball matches don’t usually have a score of 1-0 after nearly one hour’s play. 55 min: Pinball in the City area, as Young takes a shot from the edge of the area. Milner sticks a leg out, the ball flies straight back to Young, who instinctively sticks out a leg and sends an effort not too far wide left. 54 min: United are a bit of a shambles at the back. Richards cuts inside from the right and is allowed to take a free shot at goal. Luckily for the champions, Richards shanks a risible effort miles wide left. 51 min: Welbeck twists and turns down the left, making it as far as the area, but eventually Lescott takes the ball off him. A fairly high-octane start to this second period. “Could you please settle an office dispute by confirming or denying that the, ahem, back-door-tradesman in that tremendous Granada advert is Michael the bartender from Only Fools and Horses?” writes Robin Parker, who doesn’t bother waiting for an answer. “A brandy and cherryade please, Michael!” 50 min: Richards goes down in the area under a challenge from Anderson. The referee suggests it was an accidental coming together. It should have been a penalty, though, Anderson sticking his leg across his opponent’s thigh to drop him to the floor. 48 min: The City free kick is blocked by a United wall barely five yards from the ball. City don’t complain too vociferously, possibly concluding that the half is going reasonably well for them so far. 46 min: RED CARD!!! Manchester United are down to ten men. Balotelli is through on goal, chasing after a lovely ball from Aguero which splits Evans and Ferdinand asunder. On the edge of the area, he tugs Balotelli back; the striker steps on the ball and falls. It’s not a penalty, but it is a red for the pull, and the end of the afternoon for Evans. And we’re off again! No changes. Fergie comes out of the tunnel clapping furiously, doing his best to work the crowd up into a froth. He’ll be up for this, like you need to be told that. City set the ball rolling. United are kicking towards the Stretford End. “France versus France at rugby would be an absolute thrashing, surely?” wonders Dave Hinton. “France on a good day would turn up and absolutely wallop France on a bad day. A bit like the Man City of old, no?” HALF-TIME MESSAGES FROM YOUR LOCAL STATION: Adverts don’t have jingles like this any more. And companies no longer hawk televisions, without a box, from out the back of a second-hand Vauxhall Chevette. We’ve moved forward as a nation, but we’ve not necessarily progressed. HALF TIME: Manchester United 0-1 Manchester City. Smalling accidentally whacks Balotelli in the mouth, and that’s the last action of the half. Not a classic, but what a finish. “I think the real issue of this first half is where can I get these Mister Potato Crisps which United are trying to flog,” writes Craig Trainor. “I haven’t noticed it since the first 10 minutes. Perhaps they realised it was possibly the cheapest, most abysmally designed, billboard in the history of the Premier League.” Here you go. They’re a global snack partner of the club, so don’t be rude, they’re our hosts today. 42 min: Anderson has another whack from the edge of the area, but his effort sails wide and high to the left. United are beginning to show signs of recovery, after looking tatty in the wake of Balotelli’s goal. “Mention of Bruno S in a Mancunian context should of course prompt a mention of Werner Herzog’s Stoszek, the viewing of which finally persuaded Ian Curtis of seminal rib-tickling post punk combo Joy Division to seek an early bath in 1980,” writes Ben Carding, providing us all with our light-hearted Sunday afternoon F.U.N. “65,000 United fans will no doubt empathise.” 41 min: A painful minute for City. First Aguero is clear, albeit at a tight angle, in the United area to the right. But he hesitates when he should shoot, and the chance is gone. Then Kompany is booked for a cynical tug on Nani. 40 min: Two chances spurned in a minute for United. First Welbeck has Rooney to his left, waiting to break clear into the City box, but his pass pushes his team-mate too far wide left. Then Rooney, wide right of goal, slides the ball into Evans, six yards out in front of goal; the defender miskicks. 37 min: Fletcher is in full flow towards the City area, but Richards sticks out a leg to poke the ball out of his path. Brilliant tackle, not that the Old Trafford faithful see it that way. The crowd set the controls for the heart of the funk-o-sphere seconds later, as Anderson clips Silva on the ankle to concede a cheap free kick 30 yards from goal. The free kick is a dismal business, so much so that I don’t want to ruin any expensive reputations here by describing it. (OK, I missed who took it. But it was aimless, and useless.) 36 min: Nani dribbles down the right and slips the ball inside for Rooney, who drops a shoulder and hits a rising shot goalwards. Hart is behind it, though. “What was Balotelli actually booked for?” asks Paul Ruffley. “He didn’t display a political message, didn’t bare his chest, didn’t take his shirt off. Must have been the horrendous offence of having a bit of fun.” 33 min: Young’s been United’s one danger so far. Again he causes minor levels of bedlam down the left. Corner. Young sends it into the box. Hart punches clear, but Anderson’s soon sending a shot in on goal from the edge of the area. It’s a decent effort, travelling at pace, but the City keeper is right behind it. “I guess that match prediction has blown up in my face,” writes Greg Scully (4 mins). “United look like they need a proper tinderbox to spark their fuse in the final third, or they could bomb at home for the first time in ages.” 30 min: Auguero takes down a Hart goal kick and suddenly City are on the attack. United break it down easily enough, but Anderson shanks a clearance out of play. Very un-United like. The ball comes back at United, Toure looking for the top-right corner from distance with a rising volley, the shot sailing harmlessly wide. City have United, if not quite rattled, then at least questioning themselves. “You just know Balotelli’s got something else written on the back of his t-shirt,” writes Patrick Cullen. “He will score again, he will show what’s written on the back, and he will get a second yellow card.” 27 min: Young skidaddles down the left and lifts a dangerous dipping ball towards the far post. Hart goes down to claim. Rooney tries to release Welbeck down the inside-right channel with a slide-rule pass, but his measurements are a wee bit out, and the ball flies through to the keeper. United are trying to rebuild after that shock to the system; they’re still enjoying the lion’s share of possession. 26 min: Richards tries to beat De Gea from distance. That goal’s given City confidence alright. “With all these shout-outs to Klaus Kinski, we’re at risk of forgetting Herzog’s greatest find, Bruno S.,” suggests James Womack. “He seems to have been a Joey Barton in embryo. From the Guardian obituary: “Bruno is a man whose life in his youth was catastrophic and obviously made him a ‘difficult’ person to deal with,” Herzog explained. “Sometimes he would stop work by ranting against the injustices of the world. I would stop the entire team in their tracks.” Herzog would tell them: “Even if it takes three or four hours of non-stop Bruno speaking about injustice we … would all listen. I would always make physical contact with him. I would always grab him and just hold his wrist. Otherwise, he is a man of phenomenal abilities and phenomenal depth and suffering. It translates on the screen like nothing I have ever done translates on to a screen. He is, for me, the Unknown Soldier of Cinema.” “Although I think there is probably a serious injunction in referring to J.B. as the Unknown Soldier of Football.” 24 min: That goal’s stunned Old Trafford. It was absolutely exquisite. It’s stunned United, too, for they’re all over the shop at the moment. Clichy’s allowed to sprint all the way to the edge of the United area, where he feeds the ball wide right to Silva. The resulting cross into the centre flies just over Balotelli’s head. 21 min: WHAT A GOAL!!! WHAT A T-SHIRT!!! Manchester United 0-1 Manchester City. A bit more of time for City in the United half. First Balotelli, then Clichy, both with crossed from the left. Then Silva has a go, romping down the left, then cutting back to the edge of the area. Balotelli runs in, and threads a positively delicious sidefoot into the bottom-right corner. That was pinpoint. He’s then booked, of course, for revealing a t-shirt bearing the legend: WHY ALWAYS ME? Herzog documentary, please! 17 min: Clichy hits a raking crossfield pass, left to right, in the direction of Aguero, who’s looking to break down the inside-right channel. Evans positions himself brilliantly to cut the ball out, and head back to his keeper. City are beginning to get into the game now, a little bit at least. United still enjoying most of the ball, though. 14 min: Silva goes on a crazy, skittering dribble down the inside-right channel. He falls over at one point, but still manages to bounce up and keep going. He beats four challenges, but United swarm round him and crowd him out. Eventually City win a corner, Richards taking a swipe from distance, the ball ballooning out of play, but the resulting dead ball is possibly the worst ever hit by man or beast, and God knows there’s been some competition over the years. 12 min: Young has started this game at full pelt. He latches onto a loose ball, 30 yards out, just to the left of goal, drops a shoulder, and hits a low screamer goalwards. The shot’s blocked, though, and doesn’t get through to Hart. 11 min: City are struggling to get out of their own half. United can’t quite get anything going in attack, though. It’s like watching the All Blacks play the All Blacks, or France take on France. 9 min: Milner’s minute. First he takes a hopeful punt at goal from 30 yards; it’s easily marshalled by De Gea. Then, down the left, he clips an in-flight Young, and does very well to escape a booking. Referee Mark Clattenberg makes a big point of gesticulating NO MORE, PAL, as Richards has already made a couple of loose challenges down the same wing, and we’re yet to see ten minutes of play. Expect the yellow card to come out soon enough. 7 min: Another direct run by Young down the left; he’s looking to give Richards a torrid time wherever possible. And that’s another corner. The ball’s sent out to the opposite wing, from where Rooney cuts inside, and looks for Anderson on the far post with a curling, looping cross. The ball finds the United midfielder’s head, but only to skim off the top of it. Nice idea, though, and nearly well executed. 6 min: City stroke it around the back awhile, the idea no doubt being to take the sting out of the game. Time to tip the hat to their very attractive blue-and-white hooped socks, a real taste of the 1930s. 4 min: A determined and skilful run by Young down the left. And that’s a corner. Life’s too short to describe how the set piece pans out. But after that early jitter by De Gea, United have quickly got themselves onto the front foot. “I fear today’s game could set a record for the number of TNT-related puns, both by commentators and MBMers,” writes Greg Scully. “While I wish I were witty enough to stop this in its tracks, I also fear that the game will be more likely a damp squib than a true cracker, so I have bowed to the inevitable.” 2 min: Nani has his first skitter down the wing, haring down the right, the ball eventually bumping out of play. It’d be nice if the entire game pings from end to end like this. And we’re off! The most important Manchester derby for about six months since the late 1960s begins. A shaky start by De Gea, who fluffs a clearance under pressure from Aguero. The ball’s soon coming back at the keeper, Aguero again making a nuisance of himself down the inside-left channel, Smalling eventually stepping in his way and shepherding the ball out of play. The teams are out and about! Won’t be long now. The time-honoured Mancunian aesthetic: United in their red and black, City in their sky blue with white trim. “Klaus might have been as mad as Balotelli squared,” writes Gerard Cullen, “but he produced Nastassja and for that we should all be grateful.” Getting it in the neck all next week, from one manager and set of fans, or perhaps both: Mark Clattenburg (Tyne & Wear) Manchester City: Hart, Richards, Kompany, Lescott, Clichy, Toure Yaya, Barry, Milner, Silva, Balotelli, Aguero. Subs: Pantilimon, Zabaleta, Dzeko, Kolarov, Nasri, Toure, De Jong. Manchester United: De Gea, Smalling, Ferdinand, Evans, Evra, Nani, Fletcher, Anderson, Young, Rooney, Welbeck. Subs: Lindegaard, Jones, Berbatov, Park, Hernandez, Fabio Da Silva, Valencia. Some reading matter to while away the time until kick off: Paul Hayward on last year’s derby at Old Trafford, Wayne Rooney’s bicycle kick in teeth for City. Will Balotelli put in another explosive, excellent, extraordinary, monumental and epochal performance today? We’ll find out soon enough. The action starts at: 1.30pm. OK, while we’re at it, another. “One day a theatre critic had been invited for dinner. He hinted that having watched a play in which Kinski had a small role. He would mention him as outstanding and extraordinary. At once, Kinski threw hot potatoes and the cutlery into his face. He jumped up and screamed: ‘I was not excellent! I was not extraordinary! I was monumental! I was epochal!” It’ll be interesting to see what Balotelli gets up to for his next act. By way of suggestion, just throwing some seeds out there, hoping they take root, here’s another tale of Kinski’s shenanigans while staying Chez Herzog. “One day, Kinski took a huge running start down the corridor while we were eating. I heard a strange noise and then in an explosion the door came off its hinges, crashing into the room. He must have jumped against it at full speed, and now he stood there flailing wildly, completely hysterical, snow-white in the face. He was foaming at the mouth, and he moved like this. Something came floating down like leaves: they were his shirts. His screams were incredibly shrill. He could actually break wine glasses with his voice. And three octaves too high he screamed: ‘Klara! You pig!’ The thing was, she hadn’t ironed his shirt collars neatly enough.” That was pretty much the greatest bathroom-mania-related anecdote of all time. Until, perhaps, yesterday. Whichever stripe of Mancunian you are, blue or red, you really have to love Mario Balotelli . He’s the gift that keeps on giving. In the 1999 documentary film My Best Fiend, director Werner Herzog speaks of his time living with the actor Klaus Kinski. “Kinski had locked himself in this bathroom for days and nights. For forty-eight hours. In his maniacal fury, he smashed everything to smithereens. The bathtub, the toilet bowl, everything. You could sift it through a tennis racket. It was really incredible. I never thought it possible that someone could rave for hours. They called the police in the end, but they left him in peace.” Premier League Manchester United Manchester City Scott Murray guardian.co.uk

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Manchester United v Manchester City | Scott Murray

• Click on auto-refresh for all the latest action • Ping your emails to scott.murray@guardian.co.uk • The Premier League table in running 83 min: Welbeck is the latest United man to suffer the wrath of Clattenburg. He’s booked for a late trip on Richards, who was attempting to skidaddle down the right. 81 min: WHAT A BRILLIANT GOAL, THEY KEEP COMING!!! Manchester United 1-3 Manchester City. Fletcher takes up possession in the middle of the City half. He slips a ball to his right, then gets it back immediately from Hernandez. He then sidefoots a beautiful curler into the top-right corner, Hart left with no chance whatsoever. A world-class finish by the Scotland captain. They couldn’t, could they? 79 min: Smalling is booked for dragging down Richards, as the City man looked to power forward into the box. City’s movement is too much for the ten men of United. 77 min: On the field, Dzeko is sent clear into the area down the inside-right channel by Silva. He looks for the bottom-left corner, but De Gea saves brilliantly with his leg. On the City bench, Balotelli and Aguero are passing the time by smacking each other on the head. 75 min: Dzeko is booked for standing on Jones’ foot. Nasri comes on for Aguero. 74 min: It’s getting surreal. Silva should have made it four, trying to slot home a dropping ball at the right-hand post. He slices his effort miles over the bar. 73 min: “You’re getting sacked in the morning,” trill the City supporters to Fergie. The dry Mancunian wit. 71 min: Dzeko replaces Balotelli. His first contribution is to hammer a shot from the left-hand side of the box, sending the ball flying just wide right of goal. “This result is all due to the Stone Roses creating a time warp effect,” suggests Ronan Gingles. “When they were in their pomp, City spanked United 5-1. They went away (after the first album really) and Fergie’s side came to utterly dominate English football. Now they’re back along with Norwich and QPR. Good news for Luton Town?” 69 min: GOAL!!! Manchester United 0-3 Manchester City. This isn’t dissimilar to the second goal, another slick passing move, and one that’s possibly even better. Toure slides the ball down the inside-right channel for Balotelli, who instantly flicks the ball out to Milner. Milner rolls the ball out to Richards, who drops a shoulder, reaches the byline, and fires a low cross in for Aguero, running in to slide the ball under De Gea. Again, if Barcelona etc. 66 min: Nowt comes of the corner. The ball’s shuttled upfield. Evra picks up a booking for showing a couple of studs in a 50-50 challenge with Barry. 65 min: A double change by United: Nani and Anderson off, Hernandez and Jones on. Hernandez wins a corner down the right with his first touch of the ball. 64 min: Silva gains a yard on Smalling down the left, and whips another low cross into the area, this time from the left. Ferdinand is on hand to clear, ahead of Balotelli, lurking with the smell of a hat-trick in his nostrils. 62 min: Anderson is booked for sending Aguero crashing to the floor. At this point, United are all over the show. It’s worth remembering, however, that City are City, time-honoured dab hands at coming unstuck at the hands of their neighbours. Or are City now New City? What a half hour of football we’ve got coming up. 60 min: WHAT A GOAL II: Manchester United 0-2 Manchester City. Sheer passing brilliance from City, who triangulate down the right. Silva breaks into the area, draws Anderson, and frees Milner towards the byline with a tasty backflick. Milner hammers a low cross towards the far post, where Balotelli sidefoots powerfully home. No t-shirt hi-jinx this time; City are too busy celebrating wildly, for a start. A great goal. If Barcelona had scored it, etc., and so on. 58 min: Some decent pressure from United here, who have responded well to their latest setback. Young diddles around down the left; corner. On the right, Rooney drops a shoulder, can’t get a shot away, and finds Anderson, whose effort is deflected out for another corner. Rooney has a low shot after coming inside from the left; Hart gathers. This is hectic, shapeless, and very entertaining. 56 min: Milner wheechs a low, hard cross straight through the United six-yard box from the right. Aguero isn’t far away from connecting at the far post. This is like a basketball match at the moment, with the caveat that basketball matches don’t usually have a score of 1-0 after nearly one hour’s play. 55 min: Pinball in the City area, as Young takes a shot from the edge of the area. Milner sticks a leg out, the ball flies straight back to Young, who instinctively sticks out a leg and sends an effort not too far wide left. 54 min: United are a bit of a shambles at the back. Richards cuts inside from the right and is allowed to take a free shot at goal. Luckily for the champions, Richards shanks a risible effort miles wide left. 51 min: Welbeck twists and turns down the left, making it as far as the area, but eventually Lescott takes the ball off him. A fairly high-octane start to this second period. “Could you please settle an office dispute by confirming or denying that the, ahem, back-door-tradesman in that tremendous Granada advert is Michael the bartender from Only Fools and Horses?” writes Robin Parker, who doesn’t bother waiting for an answer. “A brandy and cherryade please, Michael!” 50 min: Richards goes down in the area under a challenge from Anderson. The referee suggests it was an accidental coming together. It should have been a penalty, though, Anderson sticking his leg across his opponent’s thigh to drop him to the floor. 48 min: The City free kick is blocked by a United wall barely five yards from the ball. City don’t complain too vociferously, possibly concluding that the half is going reasonably well for them so far. 46 min: RED CARD!!! Manchester United are down to ten men. Balotelli is through on goal, chasing after a lovely ball from Aguero which splits Evans and Ferdinand asunder. On the edge of the area, he tugs Balotelli back; the striker steps on the ball and falls. It’s not a penalty, but it is a red for the pull, and the end of the afternoon for Evans. And we’re off again! No changes. Fergie comes out of the tunnel clapping furiously, doing his best to work the crowd up into a froth. He’ll be up for this, like you need to be told that. City set the ball rolling. United are kicking towards the Stretford End. “France versus France at rugby would be an absolute thrashing, surely?” wonders Dave Hinton. “France on a good day would turn up and absolutely wallop France on a bad day. A bit like the Man City of old, no?” HALF-TIME MESSAGES FROM YOUR LOCAL STATION: Adverts don’t have jingles like this any more. And companies no longer hawk televisions, without a box, from out the back of a second-hand Vauxhall Chevette. We’ve moved forward as a nation, but we’ve not necessarily progressed. HALF TIME: Manchester United 0-1 Manchester City. Smalling accidentally whacks Balotelli in the mouth, and that’s the last action of the half. Not a classic, but what a finish. “I think the real issue of this first half is where can I get these Mister Potato Crisps which United are trying to flog,” writes Craig Trainor. “I haven’t noticed it since the first 10 minutes. Perhaps they realised it was possibly the cheapest, most abysmally designed, billboard in the history of the Premier League.” Here you go. They’re a global snack partner of the club, so don’t be rude, they’re our hosts today. 42 min: Anderson has another whack from the edge of the area, but his effort sails wide and high to the left. United are beginning to show signs of recovery, after looking tatty in the wake of Balotelli’s goal. “Mention of Bruno S in a Mancunian context should of course prompt a mention of Werner Herzog’s Stoszek, the viewing of which finally persuaded Ian Curtis of seminal rib-tickling post punk combo Joy Division to seek an early bath in 1980,” writes Ben Carding, providing us all with our light-hearted Sunday afternoon F.U.N. “65,000 United fans will no doubt empathise.” 41 min: A painful minute for City. First Aguero is clear, albeit at a tight angle, in the United area to the right. But he hesitates when he should shoot, and the chance is gone. Then Kompany is booked for a cynical tug on Nani. 40 min: Two chances spurned in a minute for United. First Welbeck has Rooney to his left, waiting to break clear into the City box, but his pass pushes his team-mate too far wide left. Then Rooney, wide right of goal, slides the ball into Evans, six yards out in front of goal; the defender miskicks. 37 min: Fletcher is in full flow towards the City area, but Richards sticks out a leg to poke the ball out of his path. Brilliant tackle, not that the Old Trafford faithful see it that way. The crowd set the controls for the heart of the funk-o-sphere seconds later, as Anderson clips Silva on the ankle to concede a cheap free kick 30 yards from goal. The free kick is a dismal business, so much so that I don’t want to ruin any expensive reputations here by describing it. (OK, I missed who took it. But it was aimless, and useless.) 36 min: Nani dribbles down the right and slips the ball inside for Rooney, who drops a shoulder and hits a rising shot goalwards. Hart is behind it, though. “What was Balotelli actually booked for?” asks Paul Ruffley. “He didn’t display a political message, didn’t bare his chest, didn’t take his shirt off. Must have been the horrendous offence of having a bit of fun.” 33 min: Young’s been United’s one danger so far. Again he causes minor levels of bedlam down the left. Corner. Young sends it into the box. Hart punches clear, but Anderson’s soon sending a shot in on goal from the edge of the area. It’s a decent effort, travelling at pace, but the City keeper is right behind it. “I guess that match prediction has blown up in my face,” writes Greg Scully (4 mins). “United look like they need a proper tinderbox to spark their fuse in the final third, or they could bomb at home for the first time in ages.” 30 min: Auguero takes down a Hart goal kick and suddenly City are on the attack. United break it down easily enough, but Anderson shanks a clearance out of play. Very un-United like. The ball comes back at United, Toure looking for the top-right corner from distance with a rising volley, the shot sailing harmlessly wide. City have United, if not quite rattled, then at least questioning themselves. “You just know Balotelli’s got something else written on the back of his t-shirt,” writes Patrick Cullen. “He will score again, he will show what’s written on the back, and he will get a second yellow card.” 27 min: Young skidaddles down the left and lifts a dangerous dipping ball towards the far post. Hart goes down to claim. Rooney tries to release Welbeck down the inside-right channel with a slide-rule pass, but his measurements are a wee bit out, and the ball flies through to the keeper. United are trying to rebuild after that shock to the system; they’re still enjoying the lion’s share of possession. 26 min: Richards tries to beat De Gea from distance. That goal’s given City confidence alright. “With all these shout-outs to Klaus Kinski, we’re at risk of forgetting Herzog’s greatest find, Bruno S.,” suggests James Womack. “He seems to have been a Joey Barton in embryo. From the Guardian obituary: “Bruno is a man whose life in his youth was catastrophic and obviously made him a ‘difficult’ person to deal with,” Herzog explained. “Sometimes he would stop work by ranting against the injustices of the world. I would stop the entire team in their tracks.” Herzog would tell them: “Even if it takes three or four hours of non-stop Bruno speaking about injustice we … would all listen. I would always make physical contact with him. I would always grab him and just hold his wrist. Otherwise, he is a man of phenomenal abilities and phenomenal depth and suffering. It translates on the screen like nothing I have ever done translates on to a screen. He is, for me, the Unknown Soldier of Cinema.” “Although I think there is probably a serious injunction in referring to J.B. as the Unknown Soldier of Football.” 24 min: That goal’s stunned Old Trafford. It was absolutely exquisite. It’s stunned United, too, for they’re all over the shop at the moment. Clichy’s allowed to sprint all the way to the edge of the United area, where he feeds the ball wide right to Silva. The resulting cross into the centre flies just over Balotelli’s head. 21 min: WHAT A GOAL!!! WHAT A T-SHIRT!!! Manchester United 0-1 Manchester City. A bit more of time for City in the United half. First Balotelli, then Clichy, both with crossed from the left. Then Silva has a go, romping down the left, then cutting back to the edge of the area. Balotelli runs in, and threads a positively delicious sidefoot into the bottom-right corner. That was pinpoint. He’s then booked, of course, for revealing a t-shirt bearing the legend: WHY ALWAYS ME? Herzog documentary, please! 17 min: Clichy hits a raking crossfield pass, left to right, in the direction of Aguero, who’s looking to break down the inside-right channel. Evans positions himself brilliantly to cut the ball out, and head back to his keeper. City are beginning to get into the game now, a little bit at least. United still enjoying most of the ball, though. 14 min: Silva goes on a crazy, skittering dribble down the inside-right channel. He falls over at one point, but still manages to bounce up and keep going. He beats four challenges, but United swarm round him and crowd him out. Eventually City win a corner, Richards taking a swipe from distance, the ball ballooning out of play, but the resulting dead ball is possibly the worst ever hit by man or beast, and God knows there’s been some competition over the years. 12 min: Young has started this game at full pelt. He latches onto a loose ball, 30 yards out, just to the left of goal, drops a shoulder, and hits a low screamer goalwards. The shot’s blocked, though, and doesn’t get through to Hart. 11 min: City are struggling to get out of their own half. United can’t quite get anything going in attack, though. It’s like watching the All Blacks play the All Blacks, or France take on France. 9 min: Milner’s minute. First he takes a hopeful punt at goal from 30 yards; it’s easily marshalled by De Gea. Then, down the left, he clips an in-flight Young, and does very well to escape a booking. Referee Mark Clattenberg makes a big point of gesticulating NO MORE, PAL, as Richards has already made a couple of loose challenges down the same wing, and we’re yet to see ten minutes of play. Expect the yellow card to come out soon enough. 7 min: Another direct run by Young down the left; he’s looking to give Richards a torrid time wherever possible. And that’s another corner. The ball’s sent out to the opposite wing, from where Rooney cuts inside, and looks for Anderson on the far post with a curling, looping cross. The ball finds the United midfielder’s head, but only to skim off the top of it. Nice idea, though, and nearly well executed. 6 min: City stroke it around the back awhile, the idea no doubt being to take the sting out of the game. Time to tip the hat to their very attractive blue-and-white hooped socks, a real taste of the 1930s. 4 min: A determined and skilful run by Young down the left. And that’s a corner. Life’s too short to describe how the set piece pans out. But after that early jitter by De Gea, United have quickly got themselves onto the front foot. “I fear today’s game could set a record for the number of TNT-related puns, both by commentators and MBMers,” writes Greg Scully. “While I wish I were witty enough to stop this in its tracks, I also fear that the game will be more likely a damp squib than a true cracker, so I have bowed to the inevitable.” 2 min: Nani has his first skitter down the wing, haring down the right, the ball eventually bumping out of play. It’d be nice if the entire game pings from end to end like this. And we’re off! The most important Manchester derby for about six months since the late 1960s begins. A shaky start by De Gea, who fluffs a clearance under pressure from Aguero. The ball’s soon coming back at the keeper, Aguero again making a nuisance of himself down the inside-left channel, Smalling eventually stepping in his way and shepherding the ball out of play. The teams are out and about! Won’t be long now. The time-honoured Mancunian aesthetic: United in their red and black, City in their sky blue with white trim. “Klaus might have been as mad as Balotelli squared,” writes Gerard Cullen, “but he produced Nastassja and for that we should all be grateful.” Getting it in the neck all next week, from one manager and set of fans, or perhaps both: Mark Clattenburg (Tyne & Wear) Manchester City: Hart, Richards, Kompany, Lescott, Clichy, Toure Yaya, Barry, Milner, Silva, Balotelli, Aguero. Subs: Pantilimon, Zabaleta, Dzeko, Kolarov, Nasri, Toure, De Jong. Manchester United: De Gea, Smalling, Ferdinand, Evans, Evra, Nani, Fletcher, Anderson, Young, Rooney, Welbeck. Subs: Lindegaard, Jones, Berbatov, Park, Hernandez, Fabio Da Silva, Valencia. Some reading matter to while away the time until kick off: Paul Hayward on last year’s derby at Old Trafford, Wayne Rooney’s bicycle kick in teeth for City. Will Balotelli put in another explosive, excellent, extraordinary, monumental and epochal performance today? We’ll find out soon enough. The action starts at: 1.30pm. OK, while we’re at it, another. “One day a theatre critic had been invited for dinner. He hinted that having watched a play in which Kinski had a small role. He would mention him as outstanding and extraordinary. At once, Kinski threw hot potatoes and the cutlery into his face. He jumped up and screamed: ‘I was not excellent! I was not extraordinary! I was monumental! I was epochal!” It’ll be interesting to see what Balotelli gets up to for his next act. By way of suggestion, just throwing some seeds out there, hoping they take root, here’s another tale of Kinski’s shenanigans while staying Chez Herzog. “One day, Kinski took a huge running start down the corridor while we were eating. I heard a strange noise and then in an explosion the door came off its hinges, crashing into the room. He must have jumped against it at full speed, and now he stood there flailing wildly, completely hysterical, snow-white in the face. He was foaming at the mouth, and he moved like this. Something came floating down like leaves: they were his shirts. His screams were incredibly shrill. He could actually break wine glasses with his voice. And three octaves too high he screamed: ‘Klara! You pig!’ The thing was, she hadn’t ironed his shirt collars neatly enough.” That was pretty much the greatest bathroom-mania-related anecdote of all time. Until, perhaps, yesterday. Whichever stripe of Mancunian you are, blue or red, you really have to love Mario Balotelli . He’s the gift that keeps on giving. In the 1999 documentary film My Best Fiend, director Werner Herzog speaks of his time living with the actor Klaus Kinski. “Kinski had locked himself in this bathroom for days and nights. For forty-eight hours. In his maniacal fury, he smashed everything to smithereens. The bathtub, the toilet bowl, everything. You could sift it through a tennis racket. It was really incredible. I never thought it possible that someone could rave for hours. They called the police in the end, but they left him in peace.” Premier League Manchester United Manchester City Scott Murray guardian.co.uk

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Occupy protesters seek explanation over cathedral’s call to move on

Camp occupants reluctant to leave, saying they have been told there are no safety issues, but St Paul’s remains closed An impasse between St Paul’s Cathedral and the protest camp that has spent eight days at its walls remains apparently deadlocked, with activists saying they will not consider church officials’ request for them to move elsewhere until they receive a fuller explanation as to why this is necessary. On a usual Sunday the 400-year-old London landmark would be full of worshippers and visitors. But the doors have been bolted since Friday evening when the dean, the Right Reverend Graeme Knowles, announced that the cathedral would remain shut until further notice because the 200 or so tents and marquees along its western edge posed a fire and safety risk. A scheduled wedding took place on Saturday, with the celebrants using a side door, but worshippers for morning services on Sunday were faced with a notice directing them to the nearby church of St Vedast. A special evensong involving visiting choirs to mark the 150th anniversary of the Hymns Ancient and Modern publication has been moved to Southwark Cathedral, south of the Thames. Some would-be worshippers were caught out. “We didn’t know, so we’re very disappointed,” said a woman from a visiting American family forced to suddenly revise their plans for the day. But most tourists remained largely positive about the Occupy the London Stock Exchange camp, a protest against the perceived excesses of the global financial system. “I suppose you could say we’re part of the 99% as well,” said Levin Brunner, an IT consultant from Munich, using the term coined by activists for the bulk of people who do not enjoy stellar salaries and annual bonuses. “We have similar protests in Germany, so we knew this was taking place and we have a lot of sympathy for it. It’s very interesting for tourists to see, anyway.” On Saturday the activists set up a second base at Finsbury Square , a grassed area on the fringes of London’s financial district, currently home to about 60 tents. The movement says this is not intended to be a replacement for the camp at St Paul’s, but more of an overspill as the first site is now too full to accept more tents. Activists face intense pressure to reconsider the St Paul’s camp, not least for the resonance of being seen as responsible for the closure of a national landmark for the first time since the second world war. Church officials say the closure is costing St Paul’s about £20,000 a day in lost revenue. But the protesters are deeply reluctant, strongly hinting that they believe the Corporation of London, which governs the City district, has joined financial institutions to place at least implicit pressure on St Paul’s to take action. The Occupy the London Stock Exchange movement says it has spoken to both the fire service and local health and safety officials and has been told there are no safety issues. “Until the cathedral was shut we were in regular contact with them and relations were good. But since Friday they haven’t talked to us,” said one protester, Sean, who was acting as a media spokesman. “We’ve asked for details about the fire and health and safety issues, but we’ve heard nothing.” The cathedral remains resolute. On Saturday its canon chancellor, the Reverend Dr Giles Fraser, who a week before had welcomed what he described as a legitimate protest, issued a statement urging the protesters to leave . He said: “I remain firmly supportive of the right of people peacefully to protest. But given the strong advice that we have received that the camp is making the cathedral and its occupants unsafe then this right has to be balanced against other rights and responsibilities too.” Occupy London Occupy movement London Peter Walker guardian.co.uk

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Occupy protesters seek explanation over cathedral’s call to move on

Camp occupants reluctant to leave, saying they have been told there are no safety issues, but St Paul’s remains closed An impasse between St Paul’s Cathedral and the protest camp that has spent eight days at its walls remains apparently deadlocked, with activists saying they will not consider church officials’ request for them to move elsewhere until they receive a fuller explanation as to why this is necessary. On a usual Sunday the 400-year-old London landmark would be full of worshippers and visitors. But the doors have been bolted since Friday evening when the dean, the Right Reverend Graeme Knowles, announced that the cathedral would remain shut until further notice because the 200 or so tents and marquees along its western edge posed a fire and safety risk. A scheduled wedding took place on Saturday, with the celebrants using a side door, but worshippers for morning services on Sunday were faced with a notice directing them to the nearby church of St Vedast. A special evensong involving visiting choirs to mark the 150th anniversary of the Hymns Ancient and Modern publication has been moved to Southwark Cathedral, south of the Thames. Some would-be worshippers were caught out. “We didn’t know, so we’re very disappointed,” said a woman from a visiting American family forced to suddenly revise their plans for the day. But most tourists remained largely positive about the Occupy the London Stock Exchange camp, a protest against the perceived excesses of the global financial system. “I suppose you could say we’re part of the 99% as well,” said Levin Brunner, an IT consultant from Munich, using the term coined by activists for the bulk of people who do not enjoy stellar salaries and annual bonuses. “We have similar protests in Germany, so we knew this was taking place and we have a lot of sympathy for it. It’s very interesting for tourists to see, anyway.” On Saturday the activists set up a second base at Finsbury Square , a grassed area on the fringes of London’s financial district, currently home to about 60 tents. The movement says this is not intended to be a replacement for the camp at St Paul’s, but more of an overspill as the first site is now too full to accept more tents. Activists face intense pressure to reconsider the St Paul’s camp, not least for the resonance of being seen as responsible for the closure of a national landmark for the first time since the second world war. Church officials say the closure is costing St Paul’s about £20,000 a day in lost revenue. But the protesters are deeply reluctant, strongly hinting that they believe the Corporation of London, which governs the City district, has joined financial institutions to place at least implicit pressure on St Paul’s to take action. The Occupy the London Stock Exchange movement says it has spoken to both the fire service and local health and safety officials and has been told there are no safety issues. “Until the cathedral was shut we were in regular contact with them and relations were good. But since Friday they haven’t talked to us,” said one protester, Sean, who was acting as a media spokesman. “We’ve asked for details about the fire and health and safety issues, but we’ve heard nothing.” The cathedral remains resolute. On Saturday its canon chancellor, the Reverend Dr Giles Fraser, who a week before had welcomed what he described as a legitimate protest, issued a statement urging the protesters to leave . He said: “I remain firmly supportive of the right of people peacefully to protest. But given the strong advice that we have received that the camp is making the cathedral and its occupants unsafe then this right has to be balanced against other rights and responsibilities too.” Occupy London Occupy movement London Peter Walker guardian.co.uk

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Occupy protesters seek explanation over cathedral’s call to move on

Camp occupants reluctant to leave, saying they have been told there are no safety issues, but St Paul’s remains closed An impasse between St Paul’s Cathedral and the protest camp that has spent eight days at its walls remains apparently deadlocked, with activists saying they will not consider church officials’ request for them to move elsewhere until they receive a fuller explanation as to why this is necessary. On a usual Sunday the 400-year-old London landmark would be full of worshippers and visitors. But the doors have been bolted since Friday evening when the dean, the Right Reverend Graeme Knowles, announced that the cathedral would remain shut until further notice because the 200 or so tents and marquees along its western edge posed a fire and safety risk. A scheduled wedding took place on Saturday, with the celebrants using a side door, but worshippers for morning services on Sunday were faced with a notice directing them to the nearby church of St Vedast. A special evensong involving visiting choirs to mark the 150th anniversary of the Hymns Ancient and Modern publication has been moved to Southwark Cathedral, south of the Thames. Some would-be worshippers were caught out. “We didn’t know, so we’re very disappointed,” said a woman from a visiting American family forced to suddenly revise their plans for the day. But most tourists remained largely positive about the Occupy the London Stock Exchange camp, a protest against the perceived excesses of the global financial system. “I suppose you could say we’re part of the 99% as well,” said Levin Brunner, an IT consultant from Munich, using the term coined by activists for the bulk of people who do not enjoy stellar salaries and annual bonuses. “We have similar protests in Germany, so we knew this was taking place and we have a lot of sympathy for it. It’s very interesting for tourists to see, anyway.” On Saturday the activists set up a second base at Finsbury Square , a grassed area on the fringes of London’s financial district, currently home to about 60 tents. The movement says this is not intended to be a replacement for the camp at St Paul’s, but more of an overspill as the first site is now too full to accept more tents. Activists face intense pressure to reconsider the St Paul’s camp, not least for the resonance of being seen as responsible for the closure of a national landmark for the first time since the second world war. Church officials say the closure is costing St Paul’s about £20,000 a day in lost revenue. But the protesters are deeply reluctant, strongly hinting that they believe the Corporation of London, which governs the City district, has joined financial institutions to place at least implicit pressure on St Paul’s to take action. The Occupy the London Stock Exchange movement says it has spoken to both the fire service and local health and safety officials and has been told there are no safety issues. “Until the cathedral was shut we were in regular contact with them and relations were good. But since Friday they haven’t talked to us,” said one protester, Sean, who was acting as a media spokesman. “We’ve asked for details about the fire and health and safety issues, but we’ve heard nothing.” The cathedral remains resolute. On Saturday its canon chancellor, the Reverend Dr Giles Fraser, who a week before had welcomed what he described as a legitimate protest, issued a statement urging the protesters to leave . He said: “I remain firmly supportive of the right of people peacefully to protest. But given the strong advice that we have received that the camp is making the cathedral and its occupants unsafe then this right has to be balanced against other rights and responsibilities too.” Occupy London Occupy movement London Peter Walker guardian.co.uk

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